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10nl Zoom - 99 OOP against unknown shortstacker. - Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Both villains are unknown, I'm pretty sure I should have 3b pre as we're OOP so it makes postflop easier. Also he can be raising the limper pretty wide and the limper is likely a 'recreational player' so he may well call a 3b light. Is this correct?

OTF what do we do considering we flop an overpair? Check call and plan to check call all the way down unless an overcard comes? I don't really like x/r him as we'll have to put him all in due to his stack size and I'm insue if he'll call with worse. This sort of postflop situation makes me think 3betting pre is the best option.



Thanks for any help

Oliver


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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:06 PM
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Hi Oliver,

I think preflop, you should fold or 3bet the hand, because being out of position without initiative its going to make it hard to play the hand, without hitting a set....
i dont like calling down 3streets with op, especially that size of bets.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:26 AM
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I'm actually just flatting pre because if we 3bet and get raised, we will have to fold (which is okay I guess) but more importantly I want to keep the limped guy in.

Overpair + backdoor st8 + backdoor FD. I'm calling his flop bet for sure, and reassesing turn. (definetly not planning to call 3 streeets with just 99)
 
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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:30 AM
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... then there are some guys who take the smart/donk line of limp raising with AA so by just calling we will either keep the limper in (the weaker player) and see if he will come over the top much cheaply... just a side note why I'd elect to call rather than 3bet
 
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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:47 PM
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Hi Oliver,

Actually it's not uncommon to see short stackers bet/call off with ace high in spots like this, as well as any weaker pairs, so I would generally check/raise all in as played.

Definitely prefer 3-betting against a short stack pre as well.


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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:50 PM
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I'm actually just flatting pre because if we 3bet and get raised, we will have to fold (which is okay I guess)
Not really ok to 3b/fold to a 50bb stack, they'll be 4b shoving plenty of worse hands including smaller pairs and ace highs.


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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Croyd93 View Post
Both villains are unknown, I'm pretty sure I should have 3b pre as we're OOP so it makes postflop easier. Also he can be raising the limper pretty wide and the limper is likely a 'recreational player' so he may well call a 3b light. Is this correct?

OTF what do we do considering we flop an overpair? Check call and plan to check call all the way down unless an overcard comes? I don't really like x/r him as we'll have to put him all in due to his stack size and I'm insue if he'll call with worse. This sort of postflop situation makes me think 3betting pre is the best option.



Thanks for any help

Oliver
calling the raise with 99 in the small blind i liked and when the flop comes out you checked then the villian bet,with the action pre and on the flop im almost thinking that mabe he is holding an overpair so folding to that bet is what i would off done.im not a 6max or cash game specialist so my line off thinking in this hand could be way off
 

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