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Ya...Pro players - Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:15 PM
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just curious, since i dont know the industry

we all know the "featured" pro players......negraneu dwan hellmuth etc


are those the "only" (within the same circle of the people ive named) pro players out there


or are there pro players that arent televised that make as much as these people and possibly more?

what would make someone not want to be in those circles as those other people?

Also, what makes you choose the route youre taking, whatever that may be?......Why wouldnt/dont you want to be pro etc etc...
 
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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:04 PM
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For every media darling pro player there are hundreds of lesser known players making a living off the game. Those who specialize in cash games can earn just as much as those on the tourney circuit where the media focuses.

In general terms there are five categories of poker players:
1 - noobs trying out the game. Some stick but most don't
2 - recreational players. Most playing on disposable income with some several winners.
3 - semi-pros. Those who supplement their income with poker winnings. A good number are retirees.
4 - The full-time pro who makes a living off the game through their winnings.

Which you choose is up to you. Your set of motivations and skills are unique to you. Being in touch with them makes it easier to find satisfaction in life.

Good decisions!
 
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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:44 PM
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and where are you on the list joe.
 
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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:17 PM
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As Joe said there are many pros that make a good living outside of the limelight. The one's we see on TV all the time tend to be the sponsored pros that play for a big company, PokerStars, Full Tilt etc. If you're playing the live circuit it can be a very expensive; travel, accommodation, even food and drink. And if you don't cash big or decently on a regular basis you can go broke so it helps a lot to have a sponsor to help out with these costs. However it's not easy to get sponsorship, it takes often good results and a high profile among the poker community, bloggers and those who do training videos and the like often fit this bill. It also comes with a lot of responsibilities, media commitments and the like.. Might be why some prefer to stay in the shadows. And there are those that just haven't had their big brake yet. This years Main Event winner Greg Merson may be an unknown to most but has in fact been a pro for many years, you'll see him on PokerStars season 1 of the NAPT at the LA bounty shootout if you watch the shows. That's not to mention the thousands of sickos that sit at their computers making millions. It's a big industry.



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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:45 PM
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so there are people just sitting at the comps and playing poker as their "job" making millions of dollars

sounds ridiculous lol
 
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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:42 PM
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and where are you on the list joe.
Haha putting Joe on the spot!


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so there are people just sitting at the comps and playing poker as their "job" making millions of dollars

sounds ridiculous lol
There are not many making millions (they do exist). As far as I can tell there are plenty of people making hundreds of thousands though if they put in the hours.
 
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Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:41 PM
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so there are people just sitting at the comps and playing poker as their "job" making millions of dollars

sounds ridiculous lol

Well,like you said,you're "not familiar with the industry".

Lots of people,worldwide,derive enough profit from playing online to make it their primary source of income. Many times that win enough to make it a not insignificant source of supplementary income. Many,many times that make enough to withdrawal winnings every couple/few months and do things like have a nice night on the town with it or something along those lines.

And yes,in that first group there are plenty of players who grind out hundreds of thousands and even millions some years.
 
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Tue Mar 05, 2013, 10:20 AM
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Look at it this way. In the NBA, NFL and Pro Soccer leagues there are some huge stars (Lebron James, Tom Brady, Lionel Messi etc) that earn a fortune and are household names. They play against other professionals, who might make a few hundred thousand a year. Then there are players from lower levels, leagues where the players earn moderate incomes. Below those are semi-pros, that might have another job. Below those are the amateurs, who only play for fun.
Poker is like that.

There are a few hundred or so that can earn a million a year playing poker (both cash and tourneys) or (in Tom Dwan's case) a couple of million in a week! Below those are some that can comfortably earn more than an average doctor or lawyer. Next are some "grinders" that probably earn close to an "average wage" for their country, and therefore put in similar hours (or more) than a bank manager. Lower down still are semi-pros, who might have a day job, but play seriously in the evenings or weekends. The next level down has what I call "profitable amateurs"; the guys (like me) earning a few pennies beating microstakes. Some of the microstakes regs are trying to build a bankroll so they can play higher stakes and make serious money. Others are just earning a bit of pocket money, and cashing out a few dollars each month.

If you think it's odd that there are professional poker players who treat this game as a business, reflect on the fact that there are professional skateboarders, waterskiers and even players of Magic: The Gathering!
 

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