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5NL,FR - AA multiway OOP

5NL,FR - AA multiway OOP - Wed Mar 13, 2013, 04:06 PM
3revos's Avatar
Since: Jan 2011
Posts: 16

I think there is some value in c-betting (just from draws). Though on the turn, i should just give up and check-fold, since there are not many worse hands to call, right?
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Last edited by 3revos; Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 04:09 PM..
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 06:49 AM
geoVARTA's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,306
Another line could be c/c turn, c/f river.

Sets would have raised us on the flop, so his call makes us think his hand is a draw or some TP kind of hands, but I'm not sure I can see alot of T9, AT, QT, JT in his range without any stats.

The turn fills one of his draws, but could also potentially give him a hand like TP+Draw something like QJ/KQ that floated flop or added equity to his hand with something like ATd.

I think when we check two things could happen:
1. He checks back, we b/f river
2. He bets, we call, and c/f river

Either way we are still getting information but less expensively compared to betting IMO.
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 08:26 AM
ArtySmokesPS's Avatar
Since: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,346
Hi 3revos,

Yuck! It's not often an UTG raise gets 3 callers. Pre-flop and flop is perfect. With so many callers, it's fairly likely one has a flush draw, so you made a nice bet for value and protection, and got heads up.

From here, I think geo's analysis is spot on. While betting the turn is sound in that you can make a relatively easy fold when raised, the river could be very tricky if villain just calls, because you won't know if villain is slowplaying a flush, has a hand like top pair, or was still drawing.
So I like checking the turn. We can call a small bet or fold to a big one (especially if villain is normally a passive player), and sometimes see the river for free, where we can bet-fold safe cards.

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