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Bankroll Builder - Tue Mar 19, 2013, 08:22 PM
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Hello I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.

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Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:06 AM
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Hello I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.

Many tnx
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Thu Mar 21, 2013, 07:40 AM
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I want to know if I qualify for this promotion?

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Thu Mar 21, 2013, 07:44 AM
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I want to know if I qualify for this promotion?
tnx
Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:03 AM
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Hello I've done all 3 steps. And this my hand that I played.
I went All-in cause I thought that another player is bluffing, he didn't even raised that hand.

What should I do next?

Tnx

ngenij
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:17 AM
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What should I do next?
Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.

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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 10:03 AM
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Here is another hand that I played, and I have a question should I raise before turn or better call like I did?

And is it possible to get my bonus already to play cash game?

Many tnx,


ngenij
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 10:33 AM
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Hi ngenij!

With AQ from the cutoff, I get 3 limpers in front of me. I'll make a standard raise here, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper, so I will raise to 6BB or 12 chips. Since I do have a very good starting hand, I want to raise to try to limit the number of opps that can outdraw me.

There is then a shove and a call of the shove. While AQ is a strong enough hand to shove with in the right situations, I do not like calling shoves with AQ since it is behind AK or any pocket pair. Due to this, I'm going to muck here and look for a better situation, as I do not want to be all-in in a multiway pot with an unmade hand.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:47 PM
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Hello there!


Thanks a lot for my first bonus !


here are some hands that I played recently, plz have a look and analyze it for me









 
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Tue Mar 26, 2013, 06:25 AM
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Hello.

I Studies and passed the Cash Game quiz.

3 reasons for big bets:
- To protect a made hand against straight or flush draws
- To get maximum value from opponent when you have the nuts
- To bluff your opponent off a better hand

I posted my recently played cash games.

Tnx,


ngenij
 
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Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:31 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.

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Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:36 PM
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Hi ngenij! I'll take a look at the 3 hands you posted.

1. With 77, I'm happy to over-limp for 2c and try and hit a set of trips in this multiway pot. The flop came T63 and a villain bet 8c into 13c, representing he has a pair of 10s or better. You raised. This is a mistake. You are not beating a pair of 10s. You didn't flop a set. You're making a bluff. Here, the bluff works, because villain folds, but what do you do if he (or someone else) re-raises, indicating they have at least TPTK? Don't get tricky with small pairs. Try and hit a set cheaply. If you don't spike, take a hike and fold for a minimal loss.

2. It seems you found a nice passive table with lots of limpers. This means you can call with speculative hands in late position, getting good odds to see if you can flop a big hand or big draw. A6s is a hand that can make the nut flush, so it's fine to call here on the button. If you make a pair of aces, you should be cautious, because your kicker is no good. In a multiway pot, someone is likely to have you out-kicked, or they beat you with 2 pair or better. You flopped the nut flush draw which is great. You have 9 outs to the nuts. One villain leads out on the Q97 board and you minraise. Why are you raising? When raising, ask yourself if you are likely to be called by worse (a value raise) or if you can make better hands fold. Villain is saying "I have a pair of queens". You have ace high. He's not often going to fold top pair here. So all this raise does is bloat the pot when you don't have the best hand. You have a decent chance of making the flush (about 36% of the time, you'll make it by the river), and you have a good price to call. The turn brings another queen. This is a bad card for you, as villain usually has at least trips, but sometimes a full house (full houses are only possible when there is a pair on the board), which crushes your flush if you hit it. Villain checks to you here and this is the perfect opportunity to take a free card. By betting again, you're only getting called/raised by hands that beat you. You're never getting villain to fold trips. All you're doing is setting a high price for your 9-out draw.
On the river, you're lucky enough to hit the flush and your stack is less than the pot size, so this is an easy shove. If you'd missed the flush (like you would the majority of the time) or villain had made a boat, you'll have spewed off way too many chips. Just like pre-flop, when I said you can see a flop cheaply with this speculative hand, you want to try and draw out cheaply post-flop. Don't keep making big bets/raises until you actually make the hand.

3. AA plays itself here. Your minraise to 4c kind of looks weak, or a monster looking for action. Stick with the standard 3bb (6c) here to disguise your hand. When villain 3-bets, it's standard to 4-bet, as you know he can't have a better hand than yours. Try and get away from minraises though. Choose a size of raise that is 2.5 or 3x the last bet, so that villain makes a larger mistake. (A minraise gives him good odds to call and suck out). On the flop, the c-bet is fine, because if you get called, you'll be shoving the turn. Nice hand.

You won some money in these pots, but you were fairly lucky. The main thing I want to emphasise is the rules you just posted above.
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3 reasons for big bets:
- To protect a made hand against straight or flush draws
- To get maximum value from opponent when you have the nuts
- To bluff your opponent off a better hand
In these hands, you were bluffing a little too often, and in situations where the bluff didn't have a good chance of succeeding. (Villains don't often fold TPTK, and almost never top trips). Save your big bets and raises for when you actually have the best hand.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Arty


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Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:28 PM
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Hello.
I Studies and passed the Cash Game quiz.
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Thu Mar 28, 2013, 06:23 PM
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Hey there


Arty BIG TNANKS! for your advises, they are very helpful. I'm gonna try 2 avoid the same mistakes.

Cheers,

ngenij
 
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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:46 AM
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hello

Tnx, for my bonus. I was playing quite good and already attained 7vpps, but at one table my stack was quite short comparing to another's and I felt that players are stronger.


This is the hand that I lost my last money, is it possible to get another bonus?






Cheers,

ngenij
 
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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:49 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.

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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 01:51 PM
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Hi again ngenij!

I see you're fairly short-stacked here, but you can still play 88 in this position, as you'll usually have the best hand with only 5 other players at the table. I don't like your raise size though. The trouble with raising to 12c is that you'll usually only get action from very strong hands. 12c also represents a large proportion of your stack, meaning you could get committed to stacking off, even if you miss the flop. The normal raise of 3bb would be fine here. It would mean that if the flop is bad for you, you can check-fold and you've only lost 6c. If you get a good flop (e.g. you flop a set), then you'll be able to build the pot and get all your chips in post-flop.
Your raise is called by the button and the flop comes K95. This is a bad flop for you. There are two overcards to your pair. If you bet, villain is never folding a K, and probably also calls with a 9 too. I like your check, because you have such a short stack remaining. It's time to give up and hope you get a better hand/flop next time. Villain checks behind and another king hits on the turn. You bet the size of the pot. If I was the villain, I would put you on a bluff here. The bet makes no sense, because if you had a king, you would have bet the flop. To me, your large bet is saying "I have nothing, please fold!"
so villain is going to call with any 9, and probably most pocket pairs. You don't have a hand you need to bluff with. Some of the time your 8s might be good, because villain has no king or 9. You should have tried to get to a cheap showdown, by checking or betting small. By betting big on this board, you're only going to get called by hands that beat you! When villain raises, he either has a king that cleverly checked behind on the flop, a 9, or maybe QQ-TT. You have so few chips left behind, that you're committed to calling them off, hoping that villain is bluffing, but he's not going to show up with worse than 8s here very often.

It looks like you're still being a bit too aggressive with marginal hands, and it's costing you money. If you have a big hand, then try and build a big pot. If you have a small hand (e.g. an underpair) try and keep the pot small, and don't turn it into a bluff. If your hand is marginal, your big bets are only going to get action from hands that beat it. So be more careful. As I think I said earlier in the thread, save your big bets for when you're sure you have the best hand, and you think villain will call with worse. If you don't think he'll call with worse, then don't bet!

Cheers,
Arty


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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 07:37 PM
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This is the hand that I lost my last money, is it possible to get another bonus?
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your 3rd Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 3rd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target.

2) If you lose your 3rd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.

3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Mon Apr 01, 2013, 09:58 AM
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Hey Arty Tnx again 4 y advice, I understand more that I shouldn't invest so much in flop and preflop, aswell as playing more careful with mediocre hands and only in late position.

I've earned 9 VPPs, but I lost my 2$ again of this mistakes.




Tnx a lot,


ngenij
 

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