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5NL - Passive line with AA - Fri Mar 22, 2013, 05:40 AM
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Hey guys, this one was a bit confusing for me and I guess the passive line I took was mainly because I was not confident with ranging this guys donk bet; to me it looks pretty strong when he takes that line on such a board against two opponents.

BTN - VPIP:26/PFR:16/Agg:1/3B:5 (128 Hands)
SB - VPIP:25/PFR:24/Agg:inf/3B:8 (90 Hands)

Here's my take on his donk bet:
. He has a set/two pair that is betting for value against two opponents and to protect his hand on a wet board
. He has a TP kind of hand that is worried from draws, so also betting for value and protection
. He has a hand that wants to grow the pot and does not mind to go all in

Which basically boils down to:
{TT, 22, AQs, AsJs, AsTs, KJs+, KsTs, QTs+, JsTs, AQo, KJo+, QTo+}

Against that range we have 63% in equity which should justify a raise BUT I figured I'd call since there is one player left to act behind me, and in my mind I was thinking: If BTN raises and SB shoves I'm folding.

OTT, I think villain will cbet with his entire flop range; so question is do we raise turn? My reasoning is that by raising turn we will fold out worse and possibly draws and against his calling range we will not be good. So better keep his range wide and call down?

When he bets OTR, I don't think our over pair will be any good here.

Let me know what you think about my thought process and what line would you have taken in this spot.

 
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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 07:43 AM
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here the flop is very drawy i would probably raise flop and push turn to make him pay the max to build his hand. Condider he may play with KQ, AQ the same way. He bets strong on turn so I think he hasnt got a drawing hand but a TP 2pairs or set most of the time.
As played I would fold the river as well. obv imho.
Let's hear from the coach I like this hand.
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 02:54 PM
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Hey Geo

I think you should also raise the flop. You can charge/extract value from just a ton of hands. I think this is a situation where, at these stakes, your hand is going to be strong enough to go with on the flop.

Villain can be leading hands stronger than yours, that is true. But the question is how we are doing versus his bet/call range and his 'get it in' range on the flop. It seems like your hand is strong enough against both.

Also raising really sets you up to play the turn well as opposed to in the dark. You have position on this player, but not the best relative position with another behind you. If you raise you pretty much ensure you are making the best decision, since the player behind has to commit (you fold to his 3bet) or fold, and from there you can make good decisions against the donk leader.
 
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Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GarethC23 View Post
Villain can be leading hands stronger than yours, that is true. But the question is how we are doing versus his bet/call range and his 'get it in' range on the flop. It seems like your hand is strong enough against both.
Hi Gareth,
Thanks for your reply.
From what I understood from you is that we should be happy to get it in if we raise his flop donk, the other guy folds, and the donk-er comes over the top?
 

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