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Bankroll Builder - Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:08 PM
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Hi, I would like to start the bankroll builder.
tnx Naty.
 
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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 08:45 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Sun Mar 24, 2013, 09:12 PM
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Hi Naty Jerbi,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Thu Mar 28, 2013, 05:35 AM
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Hey HokyPokyToo.

I watched the getting started video and pass the basic course quiz.

Here 2 hands that i played that i'Ll like your review.

In the first hand i played on the butten with Q5S, all the players infornet of me call so i called too

the SM call to and the BB just check. the fkop come J28 OS all players check to me and i felt weakness so i

raised and everyone foleded,


In the seconed hand i got AQ OS on the BB and i want you to tell me if i played it right or should i do something else in the turn and river.



ty Naty.
 
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Bankroll Builder - Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:37 PM
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I'm ready for the next step HokyPokytoo.
 
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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:01 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.

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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:45 AM
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Hi Naty Jerbi!

With Q5s on the button, I get everyone limping in front of me. While I'd normally like to raise to try to eliminate some of the opps, which would make playing post-flop easier, my hand isn't strong enough to do so, so I'll call and see the flop in position.
My plan for the flop will be that if I hit it, I'll bet and if I miss and it checks to me on the button I'll bet. I totally miss, but when they all check to me, here is my one shot to win the pot. Due to the large number of opps, I'll make a pot size bet of 250 here. If anyone raises, I'll fold. If anyone calls, I won't put another chip into the pot unless my hand improves.
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With AQ in the BB, there are 3 limps, a standard raise, then two calls of the raise. Honestly, being out of position with this much action, I'm mucking this preflop. The raise and calls could easily be from a pair or AK and I'm behind all of those hands. If one of them has AK and I call and see an A on the flop, it's going to be a very costly loss for me. This is a good example of why position is so importand in NLHE, as I'd be very happy to play this hand if I were in position, but with the prior action, I'm not playing it out of position. If I did decide to play it, instead of calling, I'm going to make a pot-sized 3-bet to 1400.

If I was in the hand, this is an example of a flop that can be really costly. I have top pair, but could easily be crushed. Unfortunately with this many opps in the hand, I'm really forced to make a pot-sized bet on the flop, but there is even another problem with that. It's over 1/3 of my stack, so I'm really pot-committed. That means that I have 2 options here, shove or fold... and I don't really want to shove when I'm not sure I'm ahead... but then again, I don't really have a choice and will shove here.

This is a great example of a hand where position is the key. Even though I have a better than average hand, when out of position, it can cost me a large number of chips playing it due to the positional disadvantage. It worked out in this hand, but in a game with regulars that are competent opponents, it's going to cost me a large number of chips.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Naty Jerbi View Post
I'm ready for the next step
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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Bankroll builder - Wed Apr 10, 2013, 05:01 PM
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Hi royalraise85!

i watched the video and here 3 reason why a player want to make big bet.
1. to put a lot of pressure on the opponents.
2. to protect against strong draws.
3. to gain value from very strong hands.

and i passed the quiz.


Here some hand for you to review








And now i'm ready for the next step!
 
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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:23 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Naty Jerbi View Post
Hi royalraise85!

i watched the video and here 3 reason why a player want to make big bet.
1. to put a lot of pressure on the opponents.
2. to protect against strong draws.
3. to gain value from very strong hands.

and i passed the quiz.


And now i'm ready for the next step!
Hi Naty Jerbi!

First hand 1010: Opening with 10s is great However, when you get 3-bet, you have to fold. This is one of my "Golden Rules". Never CALL when you get 3-bet and are out of position! Fold all hands except KK and AA. With KK and AA you should 4-bet.

Pocket pairs, even as strong as QQ, are tough to play post flop oop. So often overcards come combined with your bad position make calling a major leak. As played, I would not have lead with a bet on the flop. If you are ahead, let the villain make a mistake by betting and then you can check-call or check-raise. Folding as you did was your only option. Good fold.

Second hand JJ: This hand differs from the previous hand in that you now have postion on the villain in the sb. Personally, I would have called the 3-bet rather than 4-betting. If the villain is raising light, or bluffing, they will usually fold to your 4-bet. If they have a monster, then they will move all in on you forcing you to fold.

As played, you flop top set, but the board is very wet offering likely flush and straight draws. Your c-bet was well sized

The turn makes a straight even more possible. I would suggest betting larger since this board looks very dangerous. There are so many cards that might give the villain a flush or straight if they don't already have one. Since the pot is so large compared to your remaining stack, I would suggest moving all in and make the villain pay the maximum if chasing. Getting tricky in such a dangeous spot can quickly get you stacked.

The river is obviously great for you and you got paid - nice pot

Note, the villain over played his hand. Yes, he had a straight, but he was at the low end AND a flush was possible. When the board paired on the river a house was possible as well. Don't spew your stack in such spots if it is you with the low end of a straight. That is why it is called the "idiot" end

Final hand AK: I think you played this hand nicely Your betsizes were good preflop and on the flop. Both villains checked the flop, so c-betting looks perfect. When the villain leads on the turn, you still don't have a made hand. Folding is your best option. No sence getting involved in a big pot without a made hand. Good fold

GL an have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:31 PM
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Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Bankroll Builder - Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:38 AM
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Hey royalraise85!


unforchantly i didn't make it to the 10 VPPs

i did a mistake by playing loss...

i can promise you it will not happened again!

i will be happy to try it again !!

tnx Naty!

Here the hand that i lost my few remaining chips

 
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Fri Apr 12, 2013, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Naty Jerbi View Post
Hey royalraise85!


unforchantly i didn't make it to the 10 VPPs

i did a mistake by playing loss...

i can promise you it will not happened again!

i will be happy to try it again !!

tnx Naty!

Here the hand that i lost my few remaining chips

Hello,

You only lost $0.07 cent here in this hand. Where's the hand's where you lost the rest of the $2?

We really want to analyse where you are losing money in your cash games and this hand is not much help to you. Please post the hands where you lost the bulk your $2.

Naty Jerbi: raises $0.05 to $0.07 and is all-in

Cheers,

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Bankroll Builder - Fri Apr 12, 2013, 09:57 PM
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Hey Raiser!

not a problem.

As soon as I get an answer from Poker Star team for my hands history

I will upload the hand to the post
 
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Bankroll builder - Sat Apr 13, 2013, 10:25 AM
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Here some hands from yesterday -









 
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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 02:19 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:09 PM
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Hi Naty Jerbi! I'll run through these hands and see if we can find ways to improve your play.

1. ATs on the button (OTB). You played this one well. There was a limper, so you made a standard raise. Villain checked to you on the flop and you made a half pot c-bet. Villain called, so he often has one pair or a draw (e.g. 9x, 76). You turned top pair, so make a value bet. Since villain only called (not raised) his range remains the same. He'll have 9x or a draw most of the time. The 4 on the river doesn't change much, so another bet is fine. Villain is usually folding 9x here, but sometimes he'll make a reluctant call, hoping you didn't have an ace.

2. A5 UTG. This was played badly. Ragged aces play very poorly out of position. In early position, you should only play very strong hands, like AK, AQs and TT+. A5 is a very weak hand that will get you into trouble when you run into bigger aces. Just fold it pre-flop here. As played, your raise gets one caller and you c-bet the J77 flop. When you get called here, you should shut down on the turn. Villain called on the flop because he hit it. With ace high, you do not want to put any more money in the pot, because villain has you beat. Your plan should be to check-fold the turn, because you have very little chance of winning this hand.

3. AK in EP. This hand is strong enough to play, but it can be tough to win a big pot with it when you're out of position, like here. One villain calls in position, but you get a good flop: TPTK on A76. You should take the straightforward line here and make a c-bet. Getting fancy and going for a check-raise can backfire badly, because villain can check behind and take a free card to improve his hand for free. If villain has an ace or worse pair/draw, then you get value from it by betting out. Check-raising like you did can make your hand look super-strong (like you have a set), and that could mean villain folds, so you lose value. What happens here is that your weird line makes villain think his AJ is best, so you get stacks in as a big favourite. Most of the time your line will have a worse result than this. At 2NL, it's really much better to follow standard lines and just bet when you think you have the best hand, and fold when you get raised.

4. AK, but this time in the BB, with a lot of action in front of you. UTG opened and his range should be strong. For the next player to re-raise, his hand should be super-strong. Often he will have KK or AA here, and your play should actually be to fold pre-flop. AK is in bad shape when there is all this action in front of you.
As played, you cold call the 3-bet and so does UTG. The pot is getting big and stacks are getting short, so if you hit this flop (with TPTK) then you could commit to stacking off. You actually missed completely, so should fold at the first opportunity. The pre-flop re-raiser makes a decent bet on the flop and it's clear to me that he has an overpair. It's usually KK or AA, but a more loose and aggressive player will have QQ and JJ in his range. You're way behind these hands with ace high and are basically drawing to dead to anything but JJ and QQ. Calling two bets here is pure spew. You shouldn't have even been in the pot in the first place, I'm afraid.

5. ATs otb. This hand isn't displaying properly for me, but just fron hearing the chip noises I can tell you were betting and calling raises with the worst hand again. When villain raises the flop, he's saying "I can beat top pair". You don't even have top pair. You have ace high, so you should fold the moment villain tells you he's winning.

I think the main thing you need to learn here is to start thinking about the strength of your opponents' hands. You might have a decent starting hand like ATs or AK, but if there's a lot of action pre-flop or on the flop, villains aren't often bluffing. Their bets and raises are for value with strong made hands. When you have one pair or ace high, you don't want to play a big pot. You should get out of the way and fold when the action indicates that you're beat.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:13 PM
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Brilliant,

Your Bankroll Builder progress is moving along nicely and you will receive your 3rd bonus later today!

Step Three

Now we really want you to up your game! Your challenge is to earn 10 VPPs after getting today's buy-in.

Note that any VPPs that you have earned up to this point won't count, only those earned AFTER you get your 3rd buy-in.

When you hit your target of 10 VPPs we will award you with your final Bankroll Builder bonus. Let us know when you reach the target.

If you should lose your 3rd buy-in at the tables do not despair, simply post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread using the hand replayer. Once you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step but hopefully this won't happen to you.

Best of Luck at the tables and let us know as soon as you have earned the 10 VPPs.

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Bankroll Builder - Sun Apr 14, 2013, 08:43 PM
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Hey Raiser!

I made it! I got 10 VPPs!

what the next step?
 

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