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bancroll builder - Fri Mar 29, 2013, 04:22 AM
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how can i get this
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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:45 AM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

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Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:28 AM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 10:24 AM
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hi
just coplited 3 steps




 
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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 01:33 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 02:19 PM
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Hi sk0714a!

The first tip that I'd have for you is that when you sit down in a ring game, always wait for the BB until you start playing. Having to pay extra blinds over and over will be a HUGE drain to a player's bankroll.

Also, this promotion is ONLY for FULL RING tables. If you play any other format of game after you receive your first bonus in this promotion, you will make yourself inelibible for ALL future bonuses! The directions that are given, need to be followed specifically.

With 68s from UTG, I'd like to muck this immediately since it is a really bad hand, but since the blind was posted, I'll check and hope to see a free flop. If any opp raises, I'm folding.

I flop second pair and a gutshot draw and the first opp makes an abnormally small bet that is called. I'll call behind and re-evaluate on the turn since it's so small. If they had made a standard bet based on the board texture and number of opps (pot-sized bet), I'd fold.

The same thing on the turn. It's an abnormally small bet, so I'll call when the turn misses me.

The river misses me too and since I do have showdown value, I'll check and hope to get to showdown.
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With J7o, I'd like to muck this bad hand too, but since I'm in the BB, I'll check and see a free flop.

When I totally miss the flop, I'll check and fold to any bet.
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47o in the small blind is an even worse hand than the previous two. Due to this, I'll immediately muck it to any bet.
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With A7o on the button and one limper in front of me, I'm going to make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With one limper, I'll raise to 40.

I miss the flop and the same player that continually min bets everything bets, I'm going to call them and see the turn. Seeing this from them over and over, my plan is to raise them if I hit either of my cards on the turn.

The turn hits my 7 and they now bet 20 (first non-min bet). I'm going to make a standard raise here of 2/3 the size of the pot (due to 2 opps in). My raise will be to 87 chips.

The board gives me a full house and with 2 opps still in, I'll bet 2/3 the size of the pot (93 chips).

I want to keep my bets standard and based off of the BB size preflop and based off of the size of the pot post-flop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 02:28 PM
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10x its realy hopeful and im happy to see that my game is near to this
and just to ask when must get bonus?
and can i post full sesion or must be only interesting hands
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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 03:38 PM
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Please post only one interesting hand at a time

Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 03:46 PM
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3 reasons for big bet
bluff
for value
to protect
 
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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 04:27 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 04:37 PM
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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 05:10 PM
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where is my bad here


 
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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 05:54 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 06:40 PM
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Hi sk0714a! I'll take a look at this hand, which was pretty brutal for you.

Pre-flop, you have A8 in the small blind, and there'a raise by the button. As a beginner, your best play in this spot is actually to fold pre-flop. There are three reasons why I recommend folding here.
1. You are in the worst possible position. In the small blind, you will have to act first on every subsequent street. This is neither fun or profitable.
2. A8 offsuit is a trouble hand, because when you hit an ace, your kicker is not good. You're dominated by A9+ but will find it hard to fold when you make top pair. It's also not suited, so you can't make a flush using both cards.
3. Even if you have the best hand pre-flop, you usually won't be able to win a nice pot, because if the flop comes Axx and you make a bet, worse hands won't often be calling. Only better aces or 2 pr+ will want to play a pot with you.

So I recommend folding pre-flop.

As played, you called and the flop was low and ragged. No one made a bet, so everyone probably has hands a bit like yours: two overcards.
On the turn you make top pair. Here's where you can bet for value, but I think the only hands that call are other aces, and also flush draws. Your bet size here is just a minbet: 2 cents into a pot of 18c. This bet is very weak and doesn't really serve any purpose. If a villain has a flush draw, you're giving him a very cheap price to try and hit it. On the flop and turn, you should always bet at least half the pot if you think you have the best hand. That way, you can get value for your hand, and also find out if you're beat, because a villain will usually only raise with strong made hands. When you minbet like this, your bet is so weak that a villain might make a big bluff to get you to fold the best hand.
Here, the button makes a decent raise. Remember that he raised pre-flop, so it's very possible he has a better ace than you. It's possible, but unlikely, that he made a straight, two pairs, or a set of trips.
If we look at the board, it should be clear that you're not actually beating many hands. A7, A5 and A2 have two pairs. A9, AT, AJ, AQ, AK have better kickers than you. Villain's raise would lead me to believe he has one of these hands, if not a set that he decided to slowplay on the flop.
The only hands you're actually beating are A6, A4 and A3, and even those have a gutshot straight draw to go with top pair. You should be folding to this big raise, because he's saying "I have the best hand".
You call, and the river is quite unfortunate for you. You make trips. This should make it unlikely villain has the case Ace, but it's certainly not impossible. If he had a set on the flop, he now has a full house.
You check to the raiser and he bets 40c into 57c. This is a solid value-bet. Villain thinks he has the best hand and he wants you to pay him off.
You decide to check-raise all in, which would be a good play if you really thought you had the best hand and villain will call with worse - but as I said - there are only 3 worse hands he can have (A6/A4/A3), and a lot of much better ones.

No doubt lots of players would be losing their stack with A8 in this situation, but it's kind of a typical spot that a ragged ace often finds itself in. If you'd made a disciplined fold pre-flop, you wouldn't be in this tricky situation in the first place. Villain had you beat pre-flop and every street after that. He also had the benefit of being in position, so he could control the pot-size. (Checking when he had nothing, raising when he hit his hand).

Hopefully, you've learned a lesson here: With A8o in the small blind, it's best to fold pre-flop to a raise. It's just not profitable to call in the blinds with a ragged ace.

Cheers,
Arty


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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 10:59 AM
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hi
just to ask why cant try to pass Cash Game Quiz
"This quiz requires that you first comlipe a priror quiz"
i have passed basic quiz

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is it true to stand from table after 5 mins when i get x4 of my money

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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 11:31 AM
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just to ask why cant try to pass Cash Game Quiz
"This quiz requires that you first comlipe a priror quiz"
i have passed basic quiz
Hello,

Please email support@pokerschoolonline.com and they will be able to help you with this.

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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 02:17 PM
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is it true to stand from table after 5 mins when i get x4 of my money
Yes. I'd recommend that you leave the table if you've doubled up, because playing deep-stacked requires a slightly different gameplan and could leave you in very tricky spots as a beginner. (I don't even like having more than 200bb on a table, and I'm pretty solid post-flop).
You can always join another table with the standard 100bb.

One of our hand analysers is away at the moment. Are there any hands in this thread that you still want looking at?


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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 02:26 PM
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Oh the TT hand was an interesting one. I'll look at that.

With TT in late position facing a standard raise, I much prefer a flat-call, not a re-raise, and especially not a minraise to 10c, as that gives villain a good price to call. If you want to 3bet (which you should usually only do with QQ+ and AK), then you should normally make it three times the size of the original raise, to 18c or something like that.
The flop was AQ7, which is a bad flop for TT. But when villain checks, a continuation bet is standard. My plan here is to be "one and done". If villain calls on the flop, he usually has me beat, sometimes with queen, but more often with a top pair ace, so I'll be checking or folding on the turn.
The turn is an ace and villain checks. He could be slowplaying trips, is stuck with a queen or a draw. Checking behind is good.
On the river, you hit your miracle 2-outer and make a full house. When villain bets, it's standard to shove all in with your stack size. It was a particularly lucky river card for you, because villain made a straight, so he more or less has to call. Nice one.
So overall, you played this hand well, apart from pre-flop. TT isn't really strong enough to re-raise pre-flop in full ring cash games. Just call a raise and see if you can flop an overpair or a set, and get your value there.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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