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wanna build a bankroll - Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
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I'm new to PSO , and i wanna take part in BANKROLL BUILDER
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Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:11 PM
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I'm new to PSO , and i wanna take part in BANKROLL BUILDER
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Sun Mar 31, 2013, 05:01 AM
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I'm new to PSO , and i wanna take part in BANKROLL BUILDER
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Completed the THREE STEPS - Mon Jun 17, 2013, 06:56 PM
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1. I've watched the Getting Started video
2. Here is the link of the PLAY MONEY hand :
3. And I've completed all the Poker Basic Course
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 05:08 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:48 AM
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okay
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:31 AM
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Hi siingh!

The first thing that I see with this hand is that it is from a 6-max table. This promotion is only for FULL RING and playing any other format after you receive your first bonus will make you INELIGIBLE for any future bonuses from this promotion. Please only play full ring.

With KQs from the BB, I get three limps in front of me. I'm going to make a standard raise here, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper. Due to this, I will raise to 8 chips.

The flop gives me nothing but a gutshot draw on a board with an A and a flush draw. Because the pot was not raised preflop, I have absolutely no clue whether I'm ahead or behind (most likely behind), so I will check. If there had been a preflop raise, then I could make a c-bet, but not with the limps preflop.

The turn gives me a straight and I absolutely need to make a value bet here for two reasons. First, to get value for my made hand and the second being to protect against a flush draw. With 3 opps in the pot, I need to bet 3/4 pot here (6 chips). I cannot check here, as the opps will be getting the correct odds to try to outdraw me and if they do so, it's my own fault that I lose the hand.

The river pairs the board, which is not a good thing, as someone can now have a full house. Once again, I need to make a value bet and the key here is the size. With 3 opps, I need to bet 3/4 pot (6 chips).. not more, not less. By making a huge overbet, compared to the size of the pot, I will fold out all of the hands that are worse than mine (that I can get value from) and will only get called by a competent opp that has a better hand (where I'll lose the hand). This is a situation that I need to ALWAYS avoid.

The key here is to make standard value bets with made hands. Abnormal bets are tells that turn a player's cards face-up to an observant opp. By making standard bets, I help to keep the strength of my hand hidden from the opps and keep them constantly guessing as to what cards I have.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:48 AM
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i will post a full ring table hand soon . Thanks for your suggestions .
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:06 PM
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And I've completed all the Poker Basic Course
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:15 PM
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1)Three reasons to make a big bet :
1.to put pressure on opponents
2.to get value of strong hands such as hitting a straight or flush at the flop
3.to protect against strong draws

2)an interesting ring table hand i played : I noticed from previous games that villian_1 was bluffing , he forced the people to fold whenever some scary card hit the board by making a big bet . When 3 of diamonds hit the turn there was a chance of opponent for making a three of kind , but the bet he made ($ 0.08) was not that much , I came to know that he was bluffing; so to be safe i just called his raise and waited for the river . At the river i took the maximum benefit of his bluff by raising to ($0.15) and won the pot . woohoo!!! I won .

3) I completed the Cash Game Course and passed the Quiz .
 
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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:59 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 04:25 PM
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Hi Singh! I'll take a look at the hand in post #10.

You have 76o in the big blind. If there was a pre-flop raise, I'd fold this hand, because it's very weak and you'll have to play the pot out of position (OOP) which is always tricky. Here there's just two limps, so you can check your option and see a free flop.
The flop comes 863, so you made second pair. The UTG limper makes a pot-sized bet here, and even though you say he's a bluffer, I'd generally just fold to this bet, because your hand has very little "showdown value" and you are likely to face more betts on the turn and the river. About half the hands that can hit on the turn are bad cards for you (most are overcards, but some will also complete a flush draw), and you only really want to see a 6 or a 7, so you have 5 outs.
As played, you call and the turn is a 3. You say it's possible that villain made trips, and that makes sense, as he could have A3s in his UTG limping range, but when he bets the turn, I'd be more worried about overpairs like 99, or just a random 8 that has top pair. He might even have made a full house with 88 or 66 and wants to sucker you in by betting small. A flush draw remains in his range too, as aggressive players like to semi-bluff with their draws. Villain's bet is such a small percentage of the pot that I think that calling might be OK, but what do you do if you still only have one weak pair on the river and villain bets again?
As played, you call and the river is the 7c. You made two pairs, but this card completes the flush draw. I think it might be a mistake to lead out with a bet here, because it's hard for worse hands to call. I think I'd prefer to check again, to let villain bet with a worse hand, perhaps as another bluff. Here he calls. Villain's hand is not shown, but I guess he had 8x or a hand like 55, and he was hoping you were bluffing. To be honest, there's not much bluffing going on in 2NL games. When villains bet and raise, they usually have strong hands.
You got a nice result here, but I think you'll lose money if you call bets on multiple streets with just a weak pair. You can't just hope to get lucky on the river.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
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Sun Jun 23, 2013, 07:56 AM
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Hi Singh! I'll take a look at the hand in post #10.

You have 76o in the big blind. If there was a pre-flop raise, I'd fold this hand, because it's very weak and you'll have to play the pot out of position (OOP) which is always tricky. Here there's just two limps, so you can check your option and see a free flop.
The flop comes 863, so you made second pair. The UTG limper makes a pot-sized bet here, and even though you say he's a bluffer, I'd generally just fold to this bet, because your hand has very little "showdown value" and you are likely to face more betts on the turn and the river. About half the hands that can hit on the turn are bad cards for you (most are overcards, but some will also complete a flush draw), and you only really want to see a 6 or a 7, so you have 5 outs.
As played, you call and the turn is a 3. You say it's possible that villain made trips, and that makes sense, as he could have A3s in his UTG limping range, but when he bets the turn, I'd be more worried about overpairs like 99, or just a random 8 that has top pair. He might even have made a full house with 88 or 66 and wants to sucker you in by betting small. A flush draw remains in his range too, as aggressive players like to semi-bluff with their draws. Villain's bet is such a small percentage of the pot that I think that calling might be OK, but what do you do if you still only have one weak pair on the river and villain bets again?
As played, you call and the river is the 7c. You made two pairs, but this card completes the flush draw. I think it might be a mistake to lead out with a bet here, because it's hard for worse hands to call. I think I'd prefer to check again, to let villain bet with a worse hand, perhaps as another bluff. Here he calls. Villain's hand is not shown, but I guess he had 8x or a hand like 55, and he was hoping you were bluffing. To be honest, there's not much bluffing going on in 2NL games. When villains bet and raise, they usually have strong hands.
You got a nice result here, but I think you'll lose money if you call bets on multiple streets with just a weak pair. You can't just hope to get lucky on the river.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
Arty
Sir I really appreciate your suggestions , this will help me improve a lot ; I will try my best to attend live training sessions . Once again Thanks !!!
 
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Sun Jun 23, 2013, 08:22 AM
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3) I completed the Cash Game Course and passed the Quiz .
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



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3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

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