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Tight(less)-Aggressive - Sat Mar 30, 2013, 05:35 PM
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Hi,

I'd like to take part in the promotion of Bankroll Builder.

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Sat Mar 30, 2013, 06:03 PM
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Hi,

I'd like to take part in the promotion of Bankroll Builder.

Regards,
SrPickwick
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

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Sun Mar 31, 2013, 05:02 AM
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Hi,
I'd like to take part in the promotion of Bankroll Builder.
Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:36 PM
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Hello,

I've finally passed the Basic Course. My main difficulty was regarding the objectivity betwin a made hand and a hand with many outs. I figured a made hand of a pair was stronger than a flush strait draw. This view seems to condition my game sometimes from being aggressive to passive afraid of the outs. It's seems so much easier to be more aggressive when connected at the flop.

This hand that I post happened after I've noticed that my enemies were a bit imune to raises of 3 to 5 times the BB or Half, 3/4 or full pot bets. My objective on the flop was to eliminate as many players I could from a flush draw without much regard from who stayed in or not.



I'm concious that it might not been a good play, but I'd like your opinion regarding entering the flop (in medium position) with figure and a low card (seems to happen alot of times to me).

Thank you and regards,
SrPickwick

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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 06:54 AM
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Hello,I've finally passed the Basic Course.
Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you. He will do this within the next 24 hours.

Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

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Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 01:49 PM
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Hello,

I've finally passed the Basic Course. My main difficulty was regarding the objectivity betwin a made hand and a hand with many outs. I figured a made hand of a pair was stronger than a flush strait draw. This view seems to condition my game sometimes from being aggressive to passive afraid of the outs. It's seems so much easier to be more aggressive when connected at the flop.

This hand that I post happened after I've noticed that my enemies were a bit imune to raises of 3 to 5 times the BB or Half, 3/4 or full pot bets. My objective on the flop was to eliminate as many players I could from a flush draw without much regard from who stayed in or not.



I'm concious that it might not been a good play, but I'd like your opinion regarding entering the flop (in medium position) with figure and a low card (seems to happen alot of times to me).

Thank you and regards,
SrPickwick
Hi SrPickwick

Your comment regarding a made hand vs outs is actually relavant in your hand. Preflop your hand is not strong. So, checking is by far your best option

You flop top pair. Notice though you have a weak kicker. Now the board offers a straight and flush draw possibilities. This is important! You do not want the chasers to fold. You want to bet enough that they are making a mathematical mistake by continuing with the hand. Normally, if you bet about 70% of the pot this is enough. They will normally make their draw about 1 out of 3 times. If they are paying more than 33% of the pot to continue, then you will be making money over time. You want the chasers to chase because you will make money off them the two out of three times they miss their draw.

Moreover, chasers don't easily fold in playmoney or 2NL games. Let them make the mistake of chasing with poor odds and you will make money off them over time. When the flush/straight card comes on the turn or river, don't pay them off. Keep the pot small if you can, if not just fold. Learn this concept and you will be printing money at 2NL

On the flop in this hand, don't overbet. It becomes obvious what you have. Just bet 70% of the pot as above. This will build the pot for you without it getting out of control. You dont want to invest your entire stack in a mediocre hand. You have a pair, but weak kicker. A better pair is always possible, a set etc. Keep the pot small with small hands and build it when you have a set or better yourself.

I hope this helps!

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 08:21 PM
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Hello,

Please let me know when you pass the Cash Game course and I'll get your next bonus to you

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Sat Apr 06, 2013, 11:58 AM
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Hi!

I've passed the Cash Game Course at first attempt. Unfortunately I've also managed to loose the 2$ first bonus...
I'm using ipad for the moment so I can't connect to hand replayer. I'll post my hands ASAP.

@ Roland - I understand completely... However I feel like I haven't learned a thing, since I lost the first part of the bonus while falling in love with my cards and then... Bam! The opponent had a stronger hand.

Nevertheless I had a good time, thanks PSO! and perhaps next time I'll believe a bit more in what my opponents try to tell me with their bets. It seems I start fantasizing that my opps start to bluff me or are dumber... Then they are. And also, it's a bit hard to back off when I've already invested big in to the pot
 
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Sat Apr 06, 2013, 12:49 PM
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I've passed the Cash Game Course at first attempt.
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 03:50 PM
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Hi,

I'm working my way to earn those 10VPP. Thanks for everything so far.

I'd like to ask some advice in this hand. It's pretty straight forward. I had JJ playing on MP. I didn't know much about vilain.



Thanks in advance!
SrPickwick

EDIT: I placed him on AK or KK, and tried to turn a set, but gave up after. I find a bit hard to calculate the pot and the implied odds. I'm mostly going by heart, but studying on free time.

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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 04:25 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Wed Apr 10, 2013, 02:10 PM
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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:46 AM
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Hi Pickwick!

You have JJ in MP and there's a raise by the player UTG. You should know that villain's will typically only raise UTG with a very tight (i.e. strong) range of hands like 99+, AK and AQs. The first point to notice is that JJ is not ahead of that range. It's roughly flipping with it. You're beating TT/99 and AK/AQ, but way behind QQ+. The second point to notice is that when you 3-bet vs UTG, he will fold the hands you beat, and only continue with hands that either have you crushed (QQ+) or have a good chance to out-flop you (AK). Villain will usually 4-bet with KK+ and AK, and call with QQ-JJ. Sometimes he'll call with TT and 99 if another player enters the pot.
In effect, your raise gets no value from worse (because worse hands fold), and manipulates villain's range to hands that have you in bad shape. For that reason, the standard play with JJ when faced by an UTG oprn is to call and go set-mining.
As played, your 3-bet is cold-called by the BB, and UTG also calls. The flop comes A52, which is a bad flop for you. If either villain has AQ or AK, you were flipping with them pre-flop, but now you're crushed.
The BB donks out. I can't see him ever doing this as a bluff, because villains tend to play very honestly in multiway pots. In short, he's got an ace or better.
UTG folds, so he probably had KK-TT.
You should fold here too. Not only do you only have an underpair, but you only have 2 outs to improve. You simply don't have the right odds to call a half pot bet when you have 2 outs. Generally speaking, you should fold on the flop when you have anything less than top pair or an 8-out draw. With middle pair and 2 outs, fold at the first opportunity.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:33 AM
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Thanks Arty,

Allways helpful! I've got a lot to learn and then some more.

Would you mind talking to me about this fold I did? I'm SB with AQo and Button - 1 raised. I folded using the advices found on the tabble of the 3rd course.



It intrigs me alot, why wouldn't I just call it there if the raise is a 3xBB, because I think it's a strong hand specially against LP.

thank you and cheers,
Pw

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:56 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:35 PM
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Hi again Pickwick!

You're in the SB (the worst seat of all) with AQ and there's a raise by the player in the cutoff. Reads/notes would be useful here, because a decent player would be opening quite wide in late position, so you'd usually have the best hand. (Against a tighter player that's not positionally aware, I'd often fold AQ even if I had position). While calling may at first seem promising, it's very hard to make a profit when playing a flop out of position without the initiative, as you'll miss about 70% of the time, and usually have to fold to a c-bet. So I don't really like calling as an option. I'd be more inclined to do so with the suited version, as it could pick up a draw to the nut flush, but here I'd be raising or folding.

Personally, I would usually re-raise (3-bet), especially if I knew a bit about the villain. If I knew, for example, that this player calls 3-bets with a wide (i.e. weak) range, and plays fit or fold, I'd make the 3-bet and then bet most flops, expecting to win the pot.
Without reads, though, I think folding is absolutely fine. AQ is a troublesome hand that can put you in some tricky spots post-flop. While you're new to the game and you're trying to protect/grow a small bankroll, I think it's eminently sensible to just muck it here. There's no need to put yourself in situations that only have a marginally positive expectation. Wait for a clearer spot, where you can utilize position and the betting lead to create a pot size that you define.

Far too many beginners would call here, and then make a bigger mistake on the flop when it's something like KJ2. I've only been analysing bankroll builder hands for a few weeks, so I'm sure this is the first time I've seen AQ folded pre-flop, but this is a good play on your part. You're showing a level of patience and discipline that will work well for you in the long run.

Keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Arty


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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Hi,

I've reached 10 VPP. Took a huge loss against a set of K with a set of 7... I'm just glad I got to 10 VPP.
Now what happens?


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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 02:11 PM
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Hi,
I've reached 10 VPP. Took a huge loss against a set of K with a set of 7... I'm just glad I got to 10 VPP.
Now what happens?
Hello,

'Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus'+

Remember it's 10 VPPs earned AFTER you got your last buy-in, not 10 VPPs total (any VPPS earned before you got your last buy-in do not count)

If you have earned 10 VPPs AFTER you got your 2nd bonus then your 3rd bonus should be credited to you automatically within 24 hours.

Let me know when you get it and I'll advise on the next step.

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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 02:28 PM
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I believe I earned the 10 VPP after my second bonus. I have nothing credited and ATM I have 11 FPP. what happened? Please advice.
 
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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 02:33 PM
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I believe I earned the 10 VPP after my second bonus. I have nothing credited and ATM I have 11 FPP. what happened? Please advice.
It could be that the system has not yet updated, I'll check again for you tomorrow to see if it went through

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