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Bankrol Builder - Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:14 AM
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I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.
 
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Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:21 AM
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I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

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Sun Mar 31, 2013, 05:17 PM
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Hi CipciganDM,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Mon Apr 01, 2013, 07:14 PM
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1.DONE
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Should have I folded at first glance or I did ok to call a 0.5% stack on that cards?
3. PASSED
 
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Mon Apr 01, 2013, 07:48 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Mon Apr 01, 2013, 07:59 PM
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Hi CipciganDM!

The first tip that I would give you is that when sitting at a ring table, please wait for the BB before you start to play. Paying extra blinds over and over will be a very large drain to a player's bankroll.

With J2o, I'd like to immediately muck this, as the hand is awful. Since the blind is already posted, I'll check. An opp now min-raises and with a garbage hand, I need to muck. I want to be putting my chips into the pot when I'm ahead, not when I'm behind.

When the flop misses me, I absolutely need to muck.

The key here is to muck bad hands before the flop and to wait until the BB to play. Not doing so here ended up costing me 2BB (4 chips).

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Mon Apr 01, 2013, 08:21 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 07:57 AM
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Straight and flush draws if I remember....Should have I done anything diferently?

BTW I lost all the 2$ with this and a top pair(K ) and A on the flop ...2 pairs in about 30 something hands...
 
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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 08:14 AM
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2. Reasons of big betting: -to put pressure on players
- protect against strong draws
- bluff people with decent hands.
 
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Tue Apr 02, 2013, 07:22 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Also, please let us know when you have competed the cash game quiz.

Cheers.


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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 10:12 AM
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Hi CipciganDM! I think you can learn a few things from this hand.

You're in the big blind with QT offsuit, facing a 5bb raise by the UTG player. The first thing to say is that villain's range is very strong, since he opened in early position and made a large bet. I'd put him on at least TT+, or AK. The second thing to say is your hand is weak. QT might be two Broadway cards, but it won't make a straight very often. Usually it will just make a pair with only an average kicker. QT is particularly weak against an UTG open, because it's dominated by QQ+, and TT.
If you call here, you'll also have to play the hand out of position without the initiative. This is neither fun or profitable.
The correct play here is to fold pre-flop, because you do not have a positive expectation.
As played, you call and the flop comes a J93 monotone. You have an open-ended straight draw and a reasonable flush draw, but you shouldn't try and build a big pot here unless you actually make a hand.
On the flop, you bet out. This is a mistake. In most cases, you should check to the raiser, to see if he continues his aggression, and if so, find out the price he wants you to pay. If he gives you a good price, you might call and see if you can hit your draw.
After you lead out (a donkbet), villain minraises. This is a mistake by him, as it gives you a great price to call. You only need to pay 8c and the pot is already 45c. Since villain raised, he's probably never folding his hand here. Remember that his range is strong. He might have the nut flush, a set of jacks, or an overpair like KK or AA. All those hands are beating you, so try and keep the pot small to see if you can suck out cheaply.
When you re-raise all in, the pot is large enough that villain can happily call with all his made hands that beat top pair. You missed all your outs here and villain's aces held. Against villain's actual hand, you were actually a slight favourite to win here, but if he'd had both red aces, you'd have been in terrible shape, as your flush outs would be dead. Versus most of villain's range, you would lose your stack here a lot of the time.

The main lessons to learn here are:
* Try to avoid playing marginal hands (e.g. QT, KJ, JT, AT) out of position, by folding them in the blinds.
* Check to the raiser to gain information about the strength of his hand.
* Call only when you get a good price to chase a draw.
* Don't raise when it doesn't seem villain is folding, because all that does is set a higher price for your draw.
* It's usually a mistake to put all your money in the middle with just a draw. Save your big bets for when you actually have a strong made hand.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 02:56 PM
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Thank you very much for the time you spended explaining everything...I understand now.The problem is I only had 1$...with 52% chances I just couldn`t hold ...

ps:I passed the quiz! Waiting for new tasks!
 
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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 07:08 PM
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Hi CipciganDM,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 07:35 AM
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when should the bonus arrive?
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 09:24 AM
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this is too much..
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 01:11 PM
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I have made 6 vpp`s...and lost my stack...I got around 4 $ but I lost them 1 by 1...1.2 $ I lost to a river,not all in, he got in with 90 cents witha draw...



this is clearly a mistake...but I was steaming...I tought he was bluffing.
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 04:53 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 05:14 PM
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Hi again Cipcigan! I'll take a look at these two hands.

1. This looks like a tournament hand, and I'm not sure if it's real or play money, but the plan should be the same in both spots. You have AKs and just 10bb in your stack. It's almost never a mistake to go all in pre-flop with AK when you are this short. Here there is a limp in front of you. If you were deeper, you could raise to 3 or 4bb, expecting to get called by worse, but since you only have 10bb, the correct play is to go directly all in, because there is already a fair bit of dead money in the middle. Even if everyone folds, you'd increase your stack by about 25%. When you're called, your hand is flipping with all pairs except KK/AA and dominates worse aces and kings, so it's a value-shove.
Here you just limp along. When you do this, you'll normally have to hit the flop hard to win, and that's only going to happen about 30% of the time. There's a much better expectation if you raise all in, especially as that means villains have tough decisions. Here, the player after you shoves. You have to call here, because your hand is too strong to fold, and you've already put some money in the pot. Villain's hand was dominated by yours, but he sucked out. If you'd gone all in, representing strength, he might not have even been in the pot.

2. You limp in with 33. This is just about OK, although I'd prefer a raise in late position (trying to steal the blinds). The villain in the BB makes a big raise. You cannot call this bet, because you are no longer priced in to go set-mining. Villain's big raise also indicates a strong hand, such as QQ+. Against the big pairs, your hand is only going to win 20% of the time. It is a huge mistake for you to shove all in here. You're bluffing, because you don't have a monster hand, but your bluff is always going to be called.
Steaming is clearly bad for you, as it leads to poor decisions. Remember that villains are seldom bluffing at these stakes. If they make a big bet, it's usually because they have a big hand. Since villain shows up with aces here, you were getting your money in very bad. Try to maintain more discipline in future.

Cheers,
Arty


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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 07:15 PM
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1. yes, the first is a BRM freeroll ,and that was the normal stacksize (1500) so I was average,that`s why I didn`t go all in.A 4BB would have been better....
2.I was steaming...just after I got all in I was angry at me....


Thank you very much for your review and information!!
Best regards.
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 02:47 PM
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I have deposited now...please send the rest of my bonus when you can.
Best regards.
 

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