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bankroll builder - Tue Apr 02, 2013, 09:04 PM
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hi,
i'm new to to PSO and i would like to be part of this promotion

greetings
 
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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 12:55 AM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Wed Apr 03, 2013, 07:46 PM
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hi,
i'm new to to PSO and i would like to be part of this promotion

greetings
Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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play money hand - Fri Apr 05, 2013, 08:57 AM
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J2s sitting on the button.
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 11:25 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 01:16 PM
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Hi bobmestre!

The first thing that I need to point out is that you played a 6-max table instead of a FULL RING (9 player table). Once you receive a bonus in this promotion, playing anything other than 1/2 cent FULL RING will make you ineligible to receive any further bonuses thru this promotion.

With J2s from the button, there is a limp in front of me. While I am in position, I have a very bad hand, so I'm going to muck this preflop. Just because I may have an ace or suited cards does not mean that the hand is playable. If I had Jx suited, where the other card could be combined with the J for a straight, then I'd be happy to make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper (160 chips here), but with a hand that cannot make a straight too, I need to muck it as it's not a strong enough hand to play.

The flop misses me totally and there is a bet and a call in front of me. Since I have absolutely nothing, I need to muck. I want to be putting my chips into the pot when I'm ahead, not when I'm behind, so with nothing, I clearly need to get out of the hand and look for a better situation. I definitely don't want to raise, as I'm just going to lose more chips on average in the hand if I do this time after time.

Same on the turn.. I have nothing, so I need to fold and get out of the hand.

Playing at the micro stakes levels, there are so many opps that will call with any two cards that bluffing will be a losing cause in the long run and due to that, it's something that I do not want to do at these tables, as by doing so, while I may win a hand here and there, I will LOSE a large number of chips in the long run by bluffing.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 01:21 PM
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Hello,

let me know when you pass the Poker Basic course and I'll get your first bonus to you

Raiser


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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 02:48 PM
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hi JWK24,

thanks for your help.
i completely understand your comments about the hand i posted. and in a way the reason that made me post it was exactly that i think i played terrible and still won the hand just on the bluff.
anyway, thanks again for your help.

about the FULL RING table, sorry, i didn't really notice that the hand had to be in a FULL RING.
and because of that i now have a question:

-how can i find a FULL RING? (i think i found the answer already)
-and, if on a FULL RING, can i still post a hand if we are less people still at the table?

(do you want me to post here another hand, FULL RING, play money?)

i have one more question, i hope it's ok to post these questions here...
-how can i find a "1/2 cent FULL RING" for the future task?
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 02:51 PM
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ok,
SB - 1 cent
BB - 2 cents
FULL RING

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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 07:59 PM
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Hello,

Don't worry about the tables for now Let's get you playing on the real money tables!

Please let me know when you pass the Poker Basic course and I'll get your first bonus to you

Raiser


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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 11:47 AM
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Poker Basic Course done...
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 11:54 AM
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Poker Basic Course done...
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Wed May 22, 2013, 06:43 PM
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Wed May 22, 2013, 06:55 PM
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3 reasons to make a big bet:
to put a lot of pressure on the opponents, to bluff people with decent hands and to gain value from very strong hands.


the hand i last posted is a good example of the 1st reason in the answer. the 2nd or the 3rd reasons might apply but that we don't know...
 
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Wed May 22, 2013, 06:57 PM
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and,
cash game quiz passed.
 
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Thu May 23, 2013, 06:08 AM
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and,
cash game quiz passed.
Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu May 23, 2013, 10:22 AM
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Hi bobmestre! I'll take a look at this hand.

TT is strong enough to open with UTG, but only just. I play a very tight range in this seat, because I'm very likely to be called by someone who has position on me, and this will make the hand hard to make a profit with unless I flop a set. Here, you make a standard raise and get called by the player UTG+1. Since he's also in early position, he's likely to also have a strong hand; a pocket pair or AJ+.
The flop comes J33 in three suits. This board is super-dry and it's good for your hand, because there's only one overcard. Betting out is good, and the goal here is to just take down the pot immediately, before more overcards hit the board. Since the board is so dry, villain can't have a draw. It's very unlikely he has a 3 in his hand, so if you get action it's likely to be from a pocket pair that puts you on AK (so you're winning), or Jx (so you're losing).
You make a bet of about half pot, which is fine for this dry board, and villain calls. At this point, it's not clear if you're ahead or behind, and it's here that being out of position causes problems. Since we're either eay ahead or way behind, we'd like to get to showdown as cheaply as possible, but if we check, then villain is likely to bet with any two cards, and we could be bluffed off our hand. The 7 on the turn is basically a blank. The only hand it improves is 77 that hit a 2-outer.
It would help to have a read here, but I think I'd just check and fold if villain bets half pot or more. It's hard to get called by worse if we keep betting. You bet 6c into 27c, which is neither here nor there. Your bet looks weak, so villain can make a decent raise here and you have no idea if you're ahead or behind. When villain makes a pot-sized raise, you should be insta-folding. You are only beating total bluffs, and even hands like AQ have a chance to beat you. You don't want to play guessing games, so should just lay it down. Calling the raise only makes sense if you are sure villain is bluffing.
The river is about as blank as it can get, the 2c. For some reason you decided to bet again, even though villain just told you (with his turn raise) that he thinks he has the best hand. Why are you betting here? Villain isn't going to call with worse than TT (so it's a not value bet) and he's certainly not folding better (so it's a terrible bluff). If you're not betting for value, and you're not betting as a bluff, don't make the bet! Villain makes another big raise here and you finally get the message that you're beat.

I think you got married to your pair in this hand. You could have minimised your losses by just giving up once you got called on the flop. You're never getting 3 streets of value with second pair, so putting money in on the flop, turn and river is terrible really.
In future, try and think about what hands your opponent can have. If he is likely to have you beat, and especially if he starts making big bets or raises, then be more inclined to check-fold. Villains are seldom bluffing at 2NL. If they are building a pot, it's because they have the best hand. Don't help them build that pot when you're second best. Get out of the way as soon as you realise.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Thu May 23, 2013, 05:13 PM
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cash game quiz passed.
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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