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My Bankroll Builder - Thu Apr 04, 2013, 08:05 AM
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i would like to take part in Bankroll Builder promotion please
 
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Thu Apr 04, 2013, 08:43 AM
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i would like to take part in Bankroll Builder promotion please
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 08:43 AM
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hey its been 24 hours, just wondering what ive got to do... ive done one of the quizes if that helps? lol
 
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Fri Apr 05, 2013, 11:27 AM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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ive done what you asked =] - Mon Apr 08, 2013, 11:15 AM
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hey, ive posted a couple of hands from the play money tables... and ive done and passed the quiz. whats the plan now?
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 11:23 AM
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Hello,

Please post the Play Money hand in this thread

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i think its done now... - Mon Apr 08, 2013, 11:36 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 03:42 PM
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Hi Bjshamb69!

With KK or any other hand that I want to make an open-raise with, I'll make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper. Since I'm the first to get in, I'll raise to 3BB or 60.

I get 3 callers and flop top set on a board with a diamond flush draw. The BB leads into me for just under 1/2 pot (a bet that would give them the correct odds to draw to the flush if we all stay in the pot with them). Due to this, I'm going to make a standard raise here, as I want to get value for my hand, but I also want anyone with a diamond draw to get the wrong odds to draw to beat me. With 3 opps in the hand still, I'll normally make a 3/4 pot raise to 398, HOWEVER, this is well over 1/3 of the chips that I have left, which means that I'm pot-committed. Due to being pot-committed, I will SHOVE the flop.

Luckily, the opp didn't hit their flush and they actually played it better than most, as they continually be low enough that they had the right odds to draw. Observant opps will be able to take advantage of this by raising and thereby giving the opp the wrong odds to draw. In these types of situations, if I give the opp the wrong odds to draw and they hit, they will get lucky a given % of the time. However, if I give them the correct odds to draw and they hit... it's my own fault that I lose the hand.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 04:27 PM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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why make a big bet... - Tue Apr 09, 2013, 07:18 AM
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to put pressure on other players, to protect against draws/get value against draws, and to bluff off decent hands
 
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a few hands i'd like reviewing/advice on how i played - Tue Apr 09, 2013, 08:06 AM
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The guy was being hyper aggressive with every hand he played, with that in mind, did i play badly and just get lucky or did i play it right?

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Did i get full value here or was i being to cautious not C-betting >>>

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Tue Apr 09, 2013, 08:39 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Tue Apr 09, 2013, 12:25 PM
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Hi Bjshamb69! I'll take a look at these two hands.

1. You're on the button (the best position) with KTs and there's an open raise to 10c by the aggressive player. While it's possible you have the best hand, I recommend you fold here for a couple of reasons.
* KTs looks pretty, but it isn't a super-strong holding. When you make one pair with KT, your kicker is only marginal. This villain may be hyper-aggro, but he'll also have a real hand sometimes. Hands like AA/KK/AK/AT/KQ/KJ have your hand dominated, and it will take nerves of steal to call for three streets if you just have one pair, marginal kicker.
* When you play a hand like KTs, you're mostly hoping to flop a good draw to a flush or a straight. But for chasing draws profitably, you need stacks to be deep, i.e. 100bb each. We need stacks to be deep because making a straight or flush often requires you to see all 5 community cards, and then you can win a big pot on the river by raising all in with whatever you have left in your stack. If you're short-stacked, you'll often be all in on the flop or turn, so you won't even get to see the river, let alone make a raise when you make a monster hand.
You're very short-stacked at the start of this hand, with just 30bb. Villain's raise to 10c represents 1/6 of your stack. If you call here, you will be committed to stacking off if you hit the flop and there is a bet, because it would be a huge mistake to put more than a third of your stack in, and then fold. When you are as short-stacked as this, I recommend you play a very tight range indeed. Something like 88+ and AQ+. With all those hands and this stack size, the best play when you are facing a raise is to go directly all in. (If you had a full stack, then going all in would be a huge overbet, so it would be better to just play normally).
Here you decided to call. The flop is 556, which is fairly dry. Villain is unlikely to have hit this flop, but you completely missed it. If villain has an overpair like JJ, you are in bad shape, drawing to 3 outs (kings). But here's the main point: You have just king high. Even if villain is bluffing, you're still losing to ace high. And look at the price that villain has set. He makes it 20c into 23c. If you call this bet, you'll have put half of your starting stack in the middle with king high. Does that sound like a profitable play? Of course not. You should be folding here 100% of the time.
You still only had king high on the turn, when villain put you all in. Is going all in with king high a good play? Of course not! You actually got very lucky. Villain's AQ was beating you at every stage until you hit your king on the river.
The main lessons to learn from this hand are that you should not play a marginal hand when you are short stacked (wait for a big ace or pair) and don't put your stack on the line with that marginal hand. If you'd hit the king on the flop, you could commit to stacking off, but here you had absolutely nothing, so should have folded at the first opportunity.

2. You have TT in MP facing a limp. I like your isolation raise to 3bb+1bb = 4bb = 8c. With TT, you'd rather be heads up, not multiway, as most flops will contain an overcard. Unfortunately, you get two callers and the flop is pretty bad for your hand.
If I had good reads on these players and knew that they fold to c-bets often, I'd sometimes bet here. It's not so much a bet for value. It's more that I want to take the pot down now, because it's already big enough to be worth winning and I don't want to give a free card if villains have Ax or Kx. The problem with this flop is that it's quite wet, with various flush and straight draws being possible. Since a c-bet would have to get through two players, but it's very likely that at least one of them has a pair or a flush/straight draw, I think checking is fine. You don't want to make many risky plays when you're a beginner trying to conserve/build a bankroll. If you'd actually hit the flop, then betting big for value would be correct.
The flop is checked around and an 8 hits on the turn. This is a fairly good card for you, because the only draw that completed was T9, but that's an unlikely holding because you have two of the 10s. The 8 is also an undercard to your pair, and you also picked up a gutshot draw. I think I'd make a value bet here. Since the flop was checked around, it's unlikely anyone has a queen. A pair of jacks is possible, but you can also be called by 8x and draws here. It's also fine if you bet and both villains fold. If they call, then I'd probably check the river and hope to see a free showdown, as if someone bets, they can probably beat TT.
You waited for the river and it's a total blank, the . I like your small stab here. You can be called by worse pairs than tens, and sometimes even ace or king high too, because your bet looks like you are trying to steal the orphan pot. You got looked up but had the best hand. Well played.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
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Tue Apr 09, 2013, 06:38 PM
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Hello,

Please let me know as soon as you pass the Cash GAme course and I'll get your next buy-in to you

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just passed the cash quiz - Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:08 AM
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passed finally =] took a few re-reads of the course but ive got it now whats the next step/plan?
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:13 AM
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passed finally =] took a few re-reads of the course but ive got it now whats the next step/plan?
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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just checking - Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:45 AM
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so i was planning on depositing to gain entry into the 1k privelage freeroll, will that qualify me for the remainder of the bankroll booster? ill post here once ive deposited if applicable
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:58 AM
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so i was planning on depositing to gain entry into the 1k privelage freeroll, will that qualify me for the remainder of the bankroll booster? ill post here once ive deposited if applicable
If you make a first deposit now you will still get all your Bankroll Builder bonuses, I'll make sure of that

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just made my first deposit - Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:50 AM
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and im in a position to cash in the 1k privelage freeroll woop =] thanks for all the support, let me know if theres anything else i can/should do.
 

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