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Bankroll builder - Mon Apr 08, 2013, 01:46 PM
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Hi all,

I have a few questions regarding that specific hand I played..

1) Knowing 4 players are already sitting out, was it enough to raise only 2 times the big bling (being the second player to talk) with KTs ?
or should I have folded such a hand?

2) my call of 300 at the flop, was it what we call a good call?
Obviously, I am on a flush draw with King high which is pretty good for me at that stage. there is a pot of 930 and I have 300 to call (1/3) while I'm playing 9 cards.

3) My bet on the turn. should I have checked instead of betting to see what happen or was the bet a god decision as I was still on my flush draw (but with top pair at that point)?


of course, don't hesitate to share remarks outside those 3 questions if you feel the need

Cheers.
emi4173.
 
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Mon Apr 08, 2013, 04:15 PM
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Tue Apr 09, 2013, 05:31 AM
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Hello,

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 04:49 PM
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Hi there,

Here is one hand for which I have one or two questions...





Ok, first I agree A2o is not the best hand to play with but as I had the biggest stack at that moment and as I was SB with no one raising in front of me, I decided to call for the 1 remaining chip..
And things turned quite good in the end I would say...

But my questions are mainly about my bet on the river.
I'm on two pair but facing a board with possibilities to face a Straight (6 to 2) or a Flush (clubs)..

At that moment, I'm facing 4 opponents, but I think I'm still a good favourite to win the pot but not with a big margin. No one ever moved on the flop or the turn, so except a player slow-playing the straight, a double pair or a set, I was more to be facing a player with a single pair or a flush.

As I was the first player to talk, I went for what I think is a an agressive bet of almost 3 times the pot and got luckily called by only a weaker hand than mine.

But was that the way to go? To be honnest if one player had raised me.. I think I would have folded my hand.. so my bet was more a kind of questions asked to the other players.. Have you made a big hand?

I have to say, until know, all my PokerSchool readings have concentrated on pre-flop, flop or turn strategies but nothing yet about that final bet on the river...
In my opinion, I think this last bet is very important as it is also the one where you might have to show or not your pocket cards to the other players around the table.

So should I bet a lot for making all my opponents fold and keep that precious information secret to the risk of loosing a lot of my chips, or should I bet to collect more chips and risk to divulgate some usefull information to the others? --> If someone knows about some articles treating that specific subject, I would be very interested


BTW I already completed the Poker Basic assessment quiz before posting my first thread to this forum, Should I pass the test again?


Cheers.
Enrico.
 
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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:17 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:34 PM
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Hi Enrico!

With A2 from the SB there are 2 limps in front of me. While I could very easily limp behind and see the flop, I'm going to make a standard opening raise here to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With 2 limpers, I'll raise to 5BB or 10 chips. The reason that I want to do this is two-fold. First, I want to try to get some of the opps to fold, as I have to play the rest of the hand out of position. The second is that I want to try to start to define the opp's ranges. If I limp, the BB can literally have any 2 cards, so I'll have zero info about their hand before I need to make a play on the flop. Also, I can see if the other two have decent hands or are limping in with trash (that they should fold to a raise).

I hit bottom pair on the flop. My play here will depend on what I did preflop. If I had raised preflop, then I'll most likely check here for pot control, as the opps that call a raise could easily have a larger pair. But, with a limp preflop, I'm going to make a lead bet on the flop of 3/4 pot, 6 chips, (due to having 3 opps in the hand). I want to get value for my pair that could be ahead and to start to define the opps hands, to see if I'm possibly ahead or behind.

The turn is a blank for me and if I had raised preflop or bet the flop, I'm going to check here for pot control. But once again, with nobody betting so far, I need to make a 3/4 pot bet to try to get value for my pair and to see where I'm at in the hand.

The river is both a good card and a bad one. Yes, I hit two pair, but so could an opp and they also could possibly have a flush. With 3 opps in the hand, I'll make a standard value bet of 3/4 pot and see how the opps react.

I want to keep all of my bets standard so that the opps are continually guessing as to the strength of my hand. Preflop, I will base my bets off of the size of the blind (or an opp's bet if there is a raise) and post-flop, I want to size them based off of the size of the pot. On the flop/turn, I'll bet 1/2, 2/3, 3/4 or a pot-sized bet, based on the number of opps in the hand and what the board texture is. I'll base my river bets similarly buy may bet a bit more or less, depending on the opp's playing style and the board texture.

I do not want to make abnormally large nor abnormally small bets. These types of bets are normally tells for an opp's hand strength and are very easy for observant opps to exploit. For a large bet, it won't work against an observant opp, as they will fold all weaker hands and only call with better hands. For the smaller bet, it will get raised by lesser hands due to showing weakness.

Just looking at river bets isn't necessarily the way I'd go about it. I want the entire hand to tell a story when it's played out. For example here, preflop, flop and turn, I say that my hand is weak by calling or checking, then on the river I say my hand's strong by the big bet. That doesn't tell a consistant story unlees I had absolutely nothing until the river. If the opp sees this, they should not call the bet unless they have 2 pair bet (most likely by a flush). Consistancy and standard bets are a big key in maximizing the profites that I can get from the hand.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:38 PM
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Brilliant!

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Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:32 PM
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Hi!

Just one question, when you say "you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours", what kind of bonus do you mean exactly? Because as up to now, my situation stayed exactly the same... :-)

Or is it maybe because I'm from Belgium? I've to say that a couple of weeks ago now (6th April), I won a PSO ticket by completing the Basic Course Assessment Quiz, but I never received the ticket, so I asked the question why to support@pokerschoolonline.com and someone there told me at that time that this was because I'm from belgium and that rewards do not apply for Belgium...

Cheers.
Enrico.
 
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Tue Apr 16, 2013, 02:56 PM
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Hello,

I'm not sure about the Country restriction but I will find out for you and post back here. It might take a day or two to get a reply so please be patient while I look into this for you.

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Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:29 PM
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Hello,

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