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[JK] on12n Bankroll builder - Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:05 AM
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Hello, i would like to take a part in this promotion, if it is possible. Not really sure if i am eligible.
 
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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:56 AM
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Hello, i would like to take a part in this promotion, if it is possible. Not really sure if i am eligible.
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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:06 PM
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Hello on12n,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Fri Apr 12, 2013, 06:55 AM
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Hi, i played the the play money game and wasn't really sure about this hand. Not sure if raising pre-flop with such a pair isn't too risky.. I luckily made a set on the flop but maybe i could get more value on turn/river.

edit: i'm sorry two seats were open...

Last edited by on12n; Fri Apr 12, 2013 at 07:02 AM..
 
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Fri Apr 12, 2013, 11:58 AM
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Hi on12n!

With 99 here, I can really play this two ways. I can either check, conceal the strength of my hand and try to setmine... OR.. I can make a standard raise to try to get some of the opps to fold since I'm out of position. The one thing that I want to do if I raise is to make a standard raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With 4 limpers, I need to raise to 7BB or 210. Raising to a lower amount will basically end up bloating the pot and the opps won't fold because they're getting the correct odds to try to outdraw me.

I flop top set with 3 opps and a possible flush draw. I need to make a bet here, both to get value for my set, but to give anyone drawing to diamonds the wrong odds to draw. With 3 opps, I need to and will bet 3/4 pot (293 chips). If I bet less than this and an opp hits a flush to beat me, it's my own fault that I'd lose the hand, because I'm giving them the correct odds to draw.

I turn a full house and being out of position, especially if the opps had bet or tried to bluff in prior hands, I'm going to check here and if any of the opps bets, I'll call. Although, if the opps are calling stations and would check behind me if I would check, then I'll make my standard value bet for 2 opps of 2/3 pot (440 chips). What I do will be based on my read of the opps.

The river gives me quads and I'll make my standard value bet for 2 opps in the hand again and hope to get called. I'll bet 2/3 pot (440 chips).

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)

P.S. Please let me know when you have watched the video and passed the quiz.


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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:53 PM
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Hi, i finally managed to pass the quiz and watched the video too.

Thank you for analysing the hand, íll try your advices out in a game. I appreciete your time.
 
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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:34 PM
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Brilliant on12n!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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step two - Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:17 AM
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Hi, i finally did the things i had to do.

Player should make a big bet to :
a/ gain value from monster and very strong hands
b/ protect against draws
c/ bluff opponents off decent hands

Here is a hand i was a bit confused how to play, didn't go very well for me in the end but i managed to get the money back later on.


Oh, and ofc i passed the quiz.
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:51 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Take all the time that you need. All of us have busy schedules.


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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:09 PM
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Hi on12n!

It's folded to you in the SB and you have A2o. This is a weak hand, but it's good enough to attempt a steal with, as it's beating the random hand that the BB got dealt.
Since this hand is good enough to play, it's good enough to raise. You want to put the villain to a decision, and get value when you probably have the best hand. Open-limping (calling the blind) is a weak play, because it gives him a very cheap price to see if he can hit the flop. In fact, the big blind can just check his option and see a flop for free, and you don't want that, because you'll still only have ace high on the flop about 70% of the time. If villain has a weak or speculative hand (like 44, 76s, KT) then you want to charge him for trying to beat yours. You should make a standard raise to 3bb (6c), which will mean:
* You often win the blinds (which adds 3c to your stack without you even showing your hand).
* Enable you to make a good fold if villain makes a re-raise, because a 3-bet represents a stronger hand than yours.
* Follow up your pre-flop raise with a continuation bet on the flop, which is likely to take it down even if you missed.

When you limp in, it's much harder to put villain on a range, as they could check/call with junk and make a random straight or two pairs that you never suspected.

As played, you limp and villain checks. He can literally have any two cards (ATC). You missed the flop, but your ace high might be good. Since villain is also likely to have missed (this flop is very dry, containing cards of only 2 ranks), you could bet here, but checking isn't too bad. The turn gives you a gutshot straight draw, so betting is OK. When villain calls, he usually has a pair or draw, so I'd probably give up on the river if you don't improve.
On this river, you got lucky. You hit a 4-outer and made the wheel straight. You made a nice value bet of 6c into 8c and villain raised it up to 22c. This is surprising. There aren't many hands that beat you here. A full house seems unlikely, because villain would usually bet earlier in the hand with that, and would have folded 33 on the turn. There is no flush possible, so that only leaves straights, trips and random two pair hands in villain's "value-raising" range. You have the worst straight possible, and villain can definitely have 76 here, because he saw the flop for free, and picked up an OESD on the turn.
Since it's hard to get called by worse if you re-raise, I'd just call his river raise. Bumping it up again just means you get value-owned when he has you beat.

It turns out that this "lucky" river for you, was even luckier for villain.
Note that if you'd raised pre-flop, villain would usually fold 76, so you win the blinds and don't face such a tricky problem when the board comes out all ragged like this.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:39 PM
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Hello on12n,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

John (JWK24)


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