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Bankroll Builder - Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:05 AM
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Hi there,

I am new to the PSO community and a friend of my told me about this bankroll builder promotion
Am I eligible ?

Thank you
Have a nice day
 
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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:21 AM
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Hi there,

I am new to the PSO community and a friend of my told me about this bankroll builder promotion
Am I eligible ?

Thank you
Have a nice day
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:14 PM
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Hi darkfairy89,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:16 AM
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Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 9
Hi there,

Thank you very much for the help and guidance.
I watched the videos, and passed the poker basics course.
I also tried out the play money tables, but it's way more different then what I learned in the pokerbasic course. Basicaly I get shoved all in, any 3x BB raise I make, or get reraised 30x by someone with 4,7o and gets lucky on the board

Some example of the above would be this



But after some hands I managed to play a hand against a normal player (meaning he didn't go all in pre or post flop) and here it's what happened



I'm really not that proud of my play, I think it was a little bit to cautios, since from the post flop action I really thought he must have a Q or a smaller pair, but my c-bets just brought him to the river where he got lucky.
But I really want to improve so I'm curious how should I have played better this hand.


Thanks once again for helping me out :*
 
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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:10 AM
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Posts: 4,901
Thank you for posting these hands for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheer


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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:25 PM
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Hi darkfairy89!

With KJo on the button and a limp in front of me, I'm going to make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With 1 limper, I'll raise to 4BB or 8 chips.

I then have a 3-bet to 40 and a 4-bet to 120. While KJ is a marginal hand with potential, it's not a stong enough hand to call these raises and due to this, I need to muck and wait for a better spot. Blindly playing marginal hands and calling abnormally large raises with them will cost me a very large amount of chips in the long run, so I need to be patient and pass on these situations.
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With KTo from the SB, since I'm out of position, if I'm going to play the hand, I'll make a standard preflop raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper. With 2 limpers, I'll raise to 5BB or 10 chips.

I flop top pair with a medium kicker on a very wet board. I'm going to make a value bet here both to get value for my hand and to try to see where I'm at in the hand (since there was no raise preflop, the opps could be playing absolutely anything). Since an opp could even have a combination straight and flush draw here, I'll size my bet at a pot-sized bet of 8 chips. If there was just a straight or a flush draw possible, but not a combo draw, I'd use 3/4 pot. If I bet less than this, then if the opp has a draw, then they are getting the correct odds to try to beat me, which is something that I want to avoid if possible.

I then get the CO making an abnormally large raise to 5X my bet. This is a big red flag, as I could easily be beat by Kx with a better kicker or 2 pair. Also, if the opp is on a flush or straight draw, they now expect to lose chips by making this bet (whether they know this or not). Even though I have top pair, to this abnormally large of a raise, I'm going to muck and look for a better spot.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:37 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,901
Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:10 PM
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Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 9
Hello again

Thank you very much for the first 2 dollars, finally moved up to real cash game and I love it, people play a lot more different then the "play money all in fest" so I finally can make some decent plays.

So let's continue:

1. A interesting play I made today at the cash table was the hand below.
My thinking behind this play was: I was in a bad position with a small pocket pair, but if in a SnG I would probably have had to fold it, I decided that calling to see a flop it's a good choice maybe I hit a set.
So as it usually happens I don't hit my set, but I kinda knew that if I don't make at least a c-bet I would be put in a tuff decisions. So I bet aprox half the pot and he calls. Now I'm just checking the turn and getting ready to fold if he bets, but interesting enought he also checks. The river brings nothing spectacular so I decided that if he raised pre flop, he probably had a A Q, AK, something big but something that didn't hit the flop or was a underpair. So with this resoning behind I decide to bet not that big, but at least half the pot. Lucky he folds and I take the pot




2.We bet big in order to :
- put pressure on my opponents
- bluff people off decent hands
- protect against strang draws
- gain value from very strong hands

3.Cash game passed


I hope everything is in order.

Thank you once again

Regards and best of luck
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:42 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Mon Apr 15, 2013, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by darkfairy89 View Post
Hello again

Thank you very much for the first 2 dollars, finally moved up to real cash game and I love it, people play a lot more different then the "play money all in fest" so I finally can make some decent plays.

So let's continue:

1. A interesting play I made today at the cash table was the hand below.
My thinking behind this play was: I was in a bad position with a small pocket pair, but if in a SnG I would probably have had to fold it, I decided that calling to see a flop it's a good choice maybe I hit a set.
So as it usually happens I don't hit my set, but I kinda knew that if I don't make at least a c-bet I would be put in a tuff decisions. So I bet aprox half the pot and he calls. Now I'm just checking the turn and getting ready to fold if he bets, but interesting enought he also checks. The river brings nothing spectacular so I decided that if he raised pre flop, he probably had a A Q, AK, something big but something that didn't hit the flop or was a underpair. So with this resoning behind I decide to bet not that big, but at least half the pot. Lucky he folds and I take the pot




2.We bet big in order to :
- put pressure on my opponents
- bluff people off decent hands
- protect against strang draws
- gain value from very strong hands

3.Cash game passed


I hope everything is in order.

Thank you once again

Regards and best of luck
Hi darkfairy89

You are correct in your thinking. With non-premium pocket pairs, and deep stacks, we can call preflop due to the implied odds. Normally you will lose these hands, but when you hit a set, you are likely to win a big pot.

Here you are out of position. Leading with a bet is a bit risky, If the villain reraises you, you will have to fold. (Also, you are not making a continuation bet. Only the original raiser can continue betting. Leading with a bet oop like this is often called donk betting.)

I prefer checking the flop. If the villain checks too, then you can often lead with a bet on the turn being more confident after seeing them show weakness. As played, yes, you can expect the villain to call with two overcards or a pocket pair lower than the J.

Checking the turn is good. You have some showdown equity and may stil improve on the river. Don't build pots in spots like this where it is uncertain if you have the best hand.

The river is another low card. Nice bet sizing Your range on the villain sounds correct and the villain did fold. Note, in spots like this most hands you are beating will fold. So, you are not gaining any added value by betting. Most hands beating you will call, or even reraise, which will result in you losing more. Even though aggression is very important, on rivers like this where you have showdown value with a made hand, it is often better to simply check the hand down. I would have prefered checking here. Either way, nice job putting the villain on a range and acting on that.

Keep it up, you seem to be on the right track

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2013, 04:01 PM
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Posts: 4,901
Hi,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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Wed Apr 17, 2013, 12:29 PM
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Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 9
Hi there again

I managed to make 10 FPPs (before de last deposit i had 1 FPP from what I remember, now I'm at 11,60 something)
Looking back the road I can't stop and wonder about a few things that intrigued me.
Coolers and bad beats. I understand they are natural and unfurtunantly happen, but they seem to appear on a sinusoidal pattern. If I had a chart to draw my income, it would go up, then I go back a few dollars, then up 2-3 dollars, then back again 2-3 dollars, and the major boost to the chart (of lets say 5-6 dollars) would be a very lucky session where I was with a fish on a table and also had some luck. How do I manage to make this chart keep on going up in a some what straight pattern ? And how do you handle bad beats and coolers ? For me it's not the fact that they happen, but they always involve an all in or a big pot, and it usually represents my hard worked income at the table for that day.
Say I made a 2 dollar profit at the table, and someone with equal stack shoves all in after a reraise and I have KK. I call, he has QQ ,the card keep on going good for me, and then the river flops a Q. Bye bye profit and starting stack. So what am I supposed to do ? start again and so on...

Anyway, let me know what is the next step.

Best of regards
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:38 PM
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Posts: 9
Hi there,

I posted yesterday and since then I still didn't get my 3rd bonus or a response. Is everything alright ?
 
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Thu Apr 18, 2013, 06:49 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,901
Congratulations!

As you've earned enough VPP's we have awarded you with all your Bankroll Builder buy-ins and you have successfully completed the promotion, good job!
You are always welcome to post any troublesome hands in the hand analysis forums in the Poker Education section.

Also it is a good idea to review some of the content on Bankroll Management at this point.

Keep in touch with us and let us know how your poker journey continues.

Joss


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Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:17 AM
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Thank you very much for your time and help on my first poker lessons
Best of wishes
 

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