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Patryk Z 777 - Bankroll Bulider - Sat Apr 27, 2013, 12:32 PM
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Hey,
My name is Patryk and I would love to take part in the Bankroll Builder promotion.

 
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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 02:12 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Sun Apr 28, 2013, 06:57 AM
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Hey,
My name is Patryk and I would love to take part in the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Sun Apr 28, 2013, 04:52 PM
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Here is the play money hand:



Now I will check out the Course.

 
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 05:02 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:25 AM
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Hi Patryk Z 777!

With K3o from the button, I get 3 limpers in front of me. I'm going to muck here and look for a better situation, as K3 is not a good hand. Even though I'm in position, which is an advantage, I want to only be playing hands with at least some equity. These cards are not suited and have no connectability for a straight, so I need to muck them preflop. Trying to play too many hands, especially limping them is going to be a problem for my bankroll over time, as I'll continually lose chips on average from doing so. Yes, I can get lucky every so often, but I will lose in the long run.

Post-flop, I want my bets to be based on the pot-size, number of opps in the hand and the board texture. With 4 opps in the hand, I'd need to make a pot-sized raise to 1500. I do not want to bet less as I don't want to possibly give the opps the correct odds to draw to a straight to beat me.

The same thing on the turn, except that with 3 opps, I need to raise 3/4 the size of the pot (1775). Lower bets here can also give the opps the correct odds to outdraw me, which is something that I want to avoid.

With quads on the river, I want to raise to whatever amount that I think the opps would call. Here, I don't want to raise too much, as I absolutely want to be called and get value for my hand.

The keys with this hand are to 1) muck bad hands preflop and 2) bet sizes.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:10 PM
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Thanks John and thanks Raiser

I have been a hobby gamer for a while but never actually learned any techniques. This sure helps. I also was reading the Poker basic course last night and found out a lot new stuff I didnt worry so much about in the past. I will try this at the tables and when I am ready with my Poker basic course I will reply on here again.

Good luck at the tables.

Patryk.
 
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 03:19 PM
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Ok so I also passed the quiz.

 
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 06:24 PM
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Ok so I also passed the quiz.
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 07:01 AM
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Ok, I will start studying for the quiz today evening.

Good luck at the tables and thanks
 
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 01:50 PM
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Hey

Allright so for the first task I got two handsto show to you:


First hand:





Second hand:





And here are the answers for the second task:

Reason number one:
A player may want to make a big bet to put pressure on his opponents.
This could be useful when the opponent has a decent hand but not that good to call a big bet.

Reason number two:
To bluff. A player may make a big bet if he hasnt a strong hand to scary the opponent off.

Reason number three:
To gain value on very strong hands. For example if the player has a pair of aces on the hand and completes a quad aces on the river. This is a very strong hand and you definitely should make a big bet to gain value. The opponent may have a full house or two pairs and may make a call. If he has nothing or a medium hand the second ace on the table would probably scare him off so he wouldnt make any call, not even one on a small bet. So one way or another the big bet would be more effective.



Okay, so I am going to start studying the cash game course now and let you know when I am finished.

Till then good luck at the tables and see you
 
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:13 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu May 02, 2013, 02:44 PM
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Hey been a while,

Where is the hand analyser

And I just tried to take the quiz but a pop-up shows up and says 'You took a quiz recently' but I didnt since the last basic course quiz two or three days ago

Last edited by Patryk Z 777; Thu May 02, 2013 at 03:59 PM..
 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 02:34 PM
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Hey,

I tried to take the cash game quiz but now another pop up shows up saying I need to take another quiz before that. I passed the basic course before and was told to do this afterwards. I dont know what is wrong, i hope you can help me.
 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 02:52 PM
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Hey

Allright so for the first task I got two handsto show to you:


First hand:





Second hand:





And here are the answers for the second task:

Reason number one:
A player may want to make a big bet to put pressure on his opponents.
This could be useful when the opponent has a decent hand but not that good to call a big bet.

Reason number two:
To bluff. A player may make a big bet if he hasnt a strong hand to scary the opponent off.

Reason number three:
To gain value on very strong hands. For example if the player has a pair of aces on the hand and completes a quad aces on the river. This is a very strong hand and you definitely should make a big bet to gain value. The opponent may have a full house or two pairs and may make a call. If he has nothing or a medium hand the second ace on the table would probably scare him off so he wouldnt make any call, not even one on a small bet. So one way or another the big bet would be more effective.



Okay, so I am going to start studying the cash game course now and let you know when I am finished.

Till then good luck at the tables and see you
Hi Patryk Z 777

First hand JJ: You played this hand nicely. However, I would have considered 3-betting preflop. Calling as you did, will often create a chain reaction of call from many of the limpers. JJ is a good hand, but there are many overcards that can come on the flop. Big pairs play best against a single opponent. Furthermore, you are going to be out of position post flop. I would rather 3-bet and hopefully win now, or at least isolate the raiser.

As played, your postflop line was perfect. Bet your overpair every time here both for value and to protect your hand. Well played post flop.

Second hand 33: Again, your post flop play was perfect. However, preflop I actually suggest folding. Firstly, you are facing a 4bb raise which is getting a bit expensive. Secondly, there is only one opponent in the hand. Set mining works best with multiple opps, but you do have great position here. Finally, and most importantly, you only have 50bbs in your stack. You are not deep enough here to make calling profitable in the long run. Since you will miss the flop 7 out of 8 times, you need good implied odds to play small pairs. Having a deep stack AND having an opponent with a deep stack is an important part of this. If you had $2 in you stack, then calling would be great. This is one reason why we recommend always buying in for the maximum.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 02:56 PM
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Hey,

I tried to take the cash game quiz but now another pop up shows up saying I need to take another quiz before that. I passed the basic course before and was told to do this afterwards. I dont know what is wrong, i hope you can help me.
Hello,

I'm not sure what is happening there.

It would be helpful if you could take a screenshot of the pop-up message and send it to support@pokerschoolonline.com One of the technical team will do their best to assist. Let me know when it's sorted and you manage to pass the Cash Game quiz and I'll get your next bonus to you

Cheers,

Raiser


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Fri May 03, 2013, 03:07 PM
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Ok I will do so,

thanks to both of you

and good luck at the tables.
 
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Tue May 07, 2013, 07:35 AM
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Hey so I just passed the cash game quiz.

Ready for more tasks
 
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Tue May 07, 2013, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Patryk Z 777 View Post
Hey so I just passed the cash game quiz.

Ready for more tasks
Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Raiser


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Tue May 07, 2013, 01:49 PM
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Ok I will try the first option.
My current status is 18 VPPs so I am going to need to be at 28 VPPs.
 

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