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$3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) JJ - Sat Apr 27, 2013, 03:38 PM
Shichi-77's Avatar
Since: Jul 2012
Posts: 607
Villain 5 VP10/PR8/3b 3
Decided not to 3bet here, I would isolate myself against best hands and would knock out worst. Couldn't fold them because of very dry board. Was it correct play? His line looks very strong. Raised turn for a value in a case of over cards and
didn't want to play as call station , he would fold river if he didn't hit but would pay on the turn because of a big pot. Pls correct me, if there was something wrong .
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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 04:18 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,802
Hi Shichi-77!

With a limp, then a standard raise by a player playing 10/8, the one thing that I do not want to do here, especially being out of position is to call. I need to shove or fold preflop and here's why.... I'm not deep enough here to call to setmine. When setmining, I need to have 15X in both my stack and the opp's stack and with the raise to 480, the opp's stack isn't deep enough.

I'm going to 3-bet shove here, especially if seat 2 is likely to fold.

Here are the scenarios I'm up against.

If seat 2 folds, then I'm HU with seat 5 and when I put in an 8% range for them into pokerstove, I'm a 56% favorite against them. Obviously, I've got less than 50% invested into the pot (48.2%), so this is definitely a +EV situation for me if I'm isolated against this opponent.

If seat 2 calls, then I'll have 37.2% pot equity. HUD numbers on player 2's 3-bet call % would be helpful, but without them, I'll assign a 10% range to them. From pokerstove, my JJ is worth 38.6% here, which makes this a +EV play too (although a much smaller +EV than if I can isolate the initial raiser).

If for some reason, I decided to standard raise here (which I wouldn't do because doing so is going to make seat 5 be pot-committed anyway), I'm going to lead the flop here with my standard value bet size for one opp of 1/2 pot.

Check/calling from OOP is something that I really try to avoid, as it puts too much pressure on me, as I get no information about the opp's hand, so I don't know whether to check/raise/fold. If I'm willing to call a bet in a situation like this, I want to be the one to bet first, set the bet amount, then put the pressure on the opp to call my bet, instead of the other way around. It makes playing hands when out of position much easier and I want to give myself the easiest decisions possible.

Also, when raising the opp's bets, I want to make standard raises and a standard raise is to between 3X the opp's bet and a pot-sized raise. I don't want to raise less than this because by doing so, if the opp is ever on a draw, they can be getting the correct odds to try to outdraw me.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)

P.S. It was surprising with what the opp flipped over there, as they need to be playing basically DOUBLE the range from the HUD to include what they played. PFR per you was 8%, but the opp has to be playing 16% to get KTo into their range.


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Sat Apr 27, 2013, 05:01 PM
Shichi-77's Avatar
Since: Jul 2012
Posts: 607
I was surprised to Stats are for 82 hands it's enough at this stage I think . Limper's stats was VP42 he would fold after such action. I didn't call to set it. Played that way because I thought on a such dry board I win more often than loose. Board couldn't improve his hand that's why I played it that way.

Thanks a lot , I've got my answers . It was played wrong way. Just tried to explain my mistake

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