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Bankroll Builder - Sun Apr 28, 2013, 07:46 AM
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Hi. i want to join this plan.
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2013, 07:51 AM
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Hi. i want to join this plan.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 05:06 AM
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Hi. i want to join this plan.
Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 06:24 AM
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thanks. i watched videos and passed poker basic course. also its a play money hand.
on this hand i feld weakness on the turn and decided to bluff with gutshot. i was wrong but i won by river.
 
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 12:06 PM
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i think i have done all 3 steps
 
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:15 PM
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i think i have done all 3 steps
Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:29 PM
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Hi siako37!

With A5o from the CO, I get a min-raise and two callers in front of me. With this action, I need to muck A5 here, as I'm most likely out-kicked by one of the opps. Just because I have an ace or suited cards does not always mean that the hand should be played. If it were folded to me, then I'd make a standard open raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper, but with a raise and calls, I need to muck my marginal hand.

I flop a gutshot draw and now I need to see if it's worth it to call. I need to call 100 into a pot that will be 445 (22.5%). I have 4 outs and from the rule of 4 and 2, each out is worth 2% equity to the turn, so 4 outs is worth 8%. Since my pot equity (22.5%) is higher than my hand equity (8%), I need to muck. On average, I will lose 14.5% each time that I call here... so I need to muck.

The same thing on the turn. I would need to call 100 into 945 (10.6%) which is still higher than what my hand is worth (8%). When the pot equity is higher, I need to muck, as I'll lose chips on average, each and every time that I play the hand.

I want to be putting my chips into the pot when I'm ahead or when I have the correct odds to draw. In this hand, I never had a made hand and never had the correct odds to draw... so I need to muck.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:47 PM
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i think i have done all 3 steps
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:50 PM
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thanks.
 
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Wed May 01, 2013, 09:04 AM
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i have passed the cash game course and the answer of question is
* to gain value from very strong hands
* to protect against strong draws
* to bluff people off decent hands
i played this hand so bad. i had to muck my hand pre flop, on flop and turn and river.
 
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Thu May 02, 2013, 09:51 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu May 02, 2013, 01:54 PM
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Hi siako37! I'll take a look at this hand, which you realise was completely butchered.

There's a limper UTG who probably has a weak hand, so you can certainly consider making an isolation raise to try and get heads up in position against him. You chose the ideal sizing of 3bb +1bb (8c), but you're missing a crucial ingredient for the recipe. You don't have a hand! Q3s is just too weak to play in this situation. I'd stick with the hands recommended in the PSO courses for now. I'd sometimes iso-raise a limper in this position with any two suited cards over 8 (like J9s or K8s), but there are so many players still to act, and you're quite inexperienced, that you're better off sticking with strong value hands.

A problem occurs here when it's actually the big blind that calls the 8c raise, and not the limper. The BB will typically have a fairly strong hand, as players should play very snug in the blinds, as it's hard to make money out of position. You see a two-tone flop of T96. This is the sort of flop that hits the big blind's range, as he'll have small and medium pairs, suited connectors and Broadways. Nevertheless, I'm usually making a c-bet when it's checked to me in position, as c-bets have a high success rate. This isn't a great flop to c-bet (I'd prefer a K72 rainbow), but it's worth a shot. Since you're bluffing (you have queen high), you don't need to bet so big. A bet of half pot achieves the same thing as 3/4 pot. Villain is either calling (he has something) or folding (he has nothing). When bluffing, try and bet the smallest amount that will cause a villain to fold.
Villain calls, so you should definitely give up on the turn. The 4h is a total blank. Anything that called the flop is calling the turn, because this card is not a scare card. Your sizing of half pot is better, but I'd much rather check behind, as you could make a pair of queens for free.
Villain calls again and the river brings another 9. This is your 3rd chance to give up, but you decide to bluff again and shove the rest of your stack in. The line you took would actually cause me to fold a pair of tens here. There's a small chance you have trips, but mostly your line of raise pre, bet-bet-bet looks like an overpair. I'd put you on JJ or better.
This villain doesn't believe the story though. Either that, or he's thinking only of his own hand. Most 2NL players are incapable of folding TPTK, so it's suicidal to try and bluff them off it.

I think you learned a valuable lesson here, although it cost you a dollar twenty. It's really best to play straightforwardly at these limits. Stick with solid value hands. When you hit the flop hard, go for maximum value, but when you miss, then it's best to give up on the turn if you get called and don't improve. Bluffing often is not a profitable policy when there are so many calling stations at the lowest stakes.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Fri May 03, 2013, 05:48 AM
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i have passed the cash game course
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Tue May 14, 2013, 08:50 AM
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i lost my money in this hand. can i have an other 2$?
 
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Tue May 14, 2013, 09:52 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Wed May 15, 2013, 02:04 AM
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i lost my money in this hand. can i have an other 2$?
Hi siako37

Opening with is great and your betsize looks perfect.

You get min-raised by the bb. Knowing how to react will depend on your read/notes on the big blind. How did he get that big stack? Was it one lucky hand or did he seem good? Was he bullying the table with his big stack? Most importantly, had you seen him 3-bet preflop before. And if so, was it a min-raise and did you get to see his cards at the showdown?

Without any read, I would give the villain credit for being a decent player due to his stack size. I would also give him credit for a hand strong enough to 3-bet with. I would expect to see a pocket pair 1010+ or AJs+. Your hand is behind this entire range therefore I would fold. Notice that A10o doesn't play well postflop in this spot. If you flop an A, you will be ahead of pocket pairs excepts AA, but he might have an A with a bette kicker than yours. If you flop a 10 you might be ahead of AK, AQ and AJ, but you will still be behind most of the pocket pairs in his range.

If you had A10 suited, I would be happy calling here since the min-raise is giving you good odds to continue and you have position on the villain. A10s can flop straight draws and flush draws as well as having one pair hands as a backup plan.

As played, you called and missed the flop. The flop may not have helped the villain, but it still looks like we are behind his starting range. Notice that the villain lead out with 20 cents into a pot of 36 cents. This bet sizing looks like a value bet to me. Your hand did not improve so I strongly suggest folding.

Calling the flop bet with the intention of betting the turn if checked to is called floating. If can be a good move, but not in this spot. The villain's line from the very start of the hand looks strong. We can be fairly sure that he started with a better hand than we have AND our hand has not improved. Nor are there any high cards that might scare a pocket pair into folding.

In general, focus on ranging your opponents. Furthermore, I would strongly recommend not stacking off with nothing but high card. I am very careful about risking my stack with top pair even. Wait for better spots where you have flopped a strong hand such as a set or better before getting all your chips in the middle. At 2NL the best way to make money is to bet your strong hands for value and fold your weak hands. This maximizes your profit when you win and minimizes your losses when you lose

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX

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Wed May 15, 2013, 04:19 AM
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i lost my money in this hand. can i have an other 2$?
Brilliant,

Your Bankroll Builder progress is moving along nicely and you will receive your 3rd bonus later today!

Step Three

Now we really want you to up your game! Your challenge is to earn 10 VPPs after getting today's buy-in.

Note that any VPPs that you have earned up to this point won't count, only those earned AFTER you get your 3rd buy-in.

When you hit your target of 10 VPPs we will award you with your final Bankroll Builder bonus. Let us know when you reach the target.

Also, if you make a deposit at this stage we will also award you with your final bonus.

Best of Luck at the tables and let us know as soon as you have earned the 10 VPPs or if you make a deposit.

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Wed May 15, 2013, 04:12 PM
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i earned 10 vpps.
 
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Thu May 16, 2013, 05:59 AM
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i earned 10 vpps.
Hello,

'Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus'+

Remember it's 10 VPPs earned AFTER you got your last buy-in, not 10 VPPs total (any VPPS earned before you got your last buy-in do not count)

If you have earned 10 VPPs AFTER you got your 2nd bonus then your 3rd bonus should be credited to you automatically within 24 hours.

Let me know when you get it and I'll advise on the next step.

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Thu May 16, 2013, 06:07 AM
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i earned about 12 vpps after my third bonus.
 

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