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[CL] Bankroll Builder | | | - Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:09 AM
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This is my entry for bankroll builder promotion.
 
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Mon Apr 29, 2013, 11:15 AM
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This is my entry for bankroll builder promotion.
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Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:51 PM
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So uhh.. am I good?
 
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 04:54 PM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!



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bankroll builder session feedback! - Wed May 01, 2013, 03:29 AM
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Unsure about my raising pattern here.. Was it too aggressive perhaps or maybe not aggressive enough?
Something tells me I could make this pot bigger ^^.

Last edited by Talenrok; Wed May 01, 2013 at 03:33 AM..
 
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Wed May 01, 2013, 10:55 PM
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Hi,

Hand Analysis


Sitting on a stack depth of about 90bbs in middle position with multiple limpers ahead I'd be looking to play the lowest pocket pair as affordable as possible and that would be by limping. Min-raising is only going to inflate the pot which may gives us the correct price to set mine only if all of the other players call, but generally we'll be playing fit or fold post flop if as we'll never feel comfotable betting into multiple players for value if a set isn't flopped or any equity to a straight draw.

Also when the big blind 3bets to such a large committing amount I'd either consider folding this hand as we are no longer correctly priced in to call their raise and if we re-raise we could be isolating our self against a stronger range of pocket pair combos that have us at a huge equity disadvantage and/or over cards were it's nearly a coin flip 50/50 (not to mention if there where multiple callers). Our re-raise sizing was to big in this hand as it committed nearly 1/2 the stack which we'd almost be obliged to call of any bets made into us post flop regardless of if a set was flopped or not.

Post flop we get extremely lucky and hit the set (three of a kind), this hand will play it self given the incredible size of the pot in relation to our effective stack size! Nice pot and great hand!

Hope this helps.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
[ ] INCOMPLETE

2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
[x] COMPLETE

3) Pass the Poker Basic course.
[ ] INCOMPLETE

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


Kind regards,
CannonLee



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Fri May 03, 2013, 03:05 AM
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I've watched Getting Started video long time ago.. just forgot to mention it here.

And today I've finally passed the final assessment test.. barely (73%). On a fourth try -_- .

So yeah.. seems like I've got it all covered! But of course I do need to learn more before I'll start playing cash games.
 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 11:22 AM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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Mon May 06, 2013, 08:53 AM
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Seemed like the pot size was worth to try it.
That's minus 1$ total. Other hands that I lost on that table was less uncertain and more of a bad play on my part.

Watched Bet Sizing video.

Here's the answer to the question: "List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?"

To bluff people off decent hands.
To gain value from very strong hands.
To protect against strong draws.

Last edited by CannonLee; Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:12 AM.. Reason: condensing thread
 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 10:21 AM
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Hi,
Hand Analysis

Being first to act on a 16bb stack depth is certainly a difficult situation, I would have either open
jammed all in or open 3x and continuation bet the flop and play for stacks. There is some merit to open jamming all in as in most situations we will be in a coin flip 50/50 versus over cards and it makes our decision much easier (rule of thumb: it's easier to go an all in, than to call one') Generally an optimal amount to buyin for at the table is 40bb, anything less than 20bb leaves us vulnerable as we cannot generate to much fold equity versus 80bb to 250bb stack depths. Unfortunate spot, but overall standard.



Please let me know when you have passed the Cash Game Quiz and we will award you with your second Bank Roll Builder buy-in.


Kind regards,
CannonLee



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Last edited by CannonLee; Mon May 06, 2013 at 10:26 AM..
 
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Tue May 07, 2013, 02:28 AM
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Uhm.. I just passed the Cash Game test.. somewhat unintentionally. 95% for this one, pretty good!

*now I just need to finish reading the course itself*

Last edited by Talenrok; Tue May 07, 2013 at 02:34 AM..
 
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Tue May 07, 2013, 05:25 AM
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Hello,

Fantastic! Well Done on the Quiz!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target

2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.

3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.



Kind regards,
CannonLee



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Sat Jun 01, 2013, 08:51 AM
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2 big losses melted my bonus.



 
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Sat Jun 01, 2013, 12:42 PM
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Hi,
Hand Analysis

When the action folds around to us on the button, we can open for 3x. But proceed with caution post flop, as there could be a good chance that we are out kicked by a better combo of Ax.

Post flop, I like the continuation bet on this flop, as it presents a thin value opportunity from flush draws, but when we get called I'd shut down the turn just as you did to try and pick up our inside draw for a free peel (check back). The river is a tough spot, even though we had a straight, it's not the best possible hand. What where you raising to get value from, also did you have any specific reads about this villain based on previously played hands? Remember this, we are playing versus a range of hands, let's use the this board texture as an example: T9 89 97 J9 Q9 K9 A9 99 could plausibly be within their range x 4 combos of each hand. If we are to raise this hand for thin value I'd make the sizing smaller almost for a minimum raise, but this line should only be taken if you think this villain is capable of betting the river with worse hands.


Hope this helps.

CannonLee



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Sat Jun 01, 2013, 12:54 PM
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Hi,
Hand Analysis

Our stack depth doesn't really have any merit to be playing marginal hands, when we choose to play a pot from the small blind, we will be at a positional disadvantage post flop, let's try to focus on playing strong value hands throughout the next 2 steps in your Bank Roll Builder training. AK AQ AJs AT TT JJ QQ KK AA, you will be surprised at how profitable this approach will be at 2NL fullring.

Post flop, I like the bet for the semi bluff, but if we get raised I'd fold. Your sizing is just fine as it doesn't inflate the pot or commit our stack. On the turn, we made our straight and this board presents many hands that we can get value from Jx and a wide range of flush combos, soo let's bet for value, if we check we might lose value as the villains that could have been on flush draw may also check behind. I'd make our sizing full pot for maximum value! The way the hand played out, the check raise sizing you did was perfect, it priced out all flush draws..unfortunate river...we where pot committed!


Hope this helps.


CannonLee



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Sat Jun 01, 2013, 12:59 PM
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Hello,

Fantastic!

Your third Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target

2) If you lose your 3rd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.

3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.


Kind regards,
CannonLee



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Sun Jun 02, 2013, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CannonLee View Post
Hi,
Hand Analysis

When the action folds around to us on the button, we can open for 3x. But proceed with caution post flop, as there could be a good chance that we are out kicked by a better combo of Ax.

Post flop, I like the continuation bet on this flop, as it presents a thin value opportunity from flush draws, but when we get called I'd shut down the turn just as you did to try and pick up our inside draw for a free peel (check back). The river is a tough spot, even though we had a straight, it's not the best possible hand. What where you raising to get value from, also did you have any specific reads about this villain based on previously played hands? Remember this, we are playing versus a range of hands, let's use the this board texture as an example: T9 89 97 J9 Q9 K9 A9 99 could plausibly be within their range x 4 combos of each hand. If we are to raise this hand for thin value I'd make the sizing smaller almost for a minimum raise, but this line should only be taken if you think this villain is capable of betting the river with worse hands.


Hope this helps.

CannonLee
At first I just wanted to steal the blinds with that hand.. cbet to add more pressure. Should have stopped when he made that big bet on the river, unlikely that he would bluff there. My raise was more like giving value away, just really bad move. Villain was a loose player somewhat.. which kinda means I shouldn't have tried to steal in a first place.. ugh!
 

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