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Bankroll Builder - Tue Apr 30, 2013, 02:03 AM
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Hello,

I would like to take part in the bankroll builder promotion!

Thanks,

cake
 
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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 05:03 AM
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Hello,
I would like to take part in the bankroll builder promotion!
Thanks,
cake
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Tue Apr 30, 2013, 09:34 AM
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Hello colonel cake,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Hit Wheel on turn, lost to full house - Wed May 01, 2013, 01:46 PM
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I thought the person had hit trips or a pair on the flop, didn't put him on a full house.
 
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Wed May 01, 2013, 06:15 PM
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Thanks for that, we'll have the hand analysis done shortly and post it here. Let me know when you pass the quiz and then I'll give you your next steps
 
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Wed May 01, 2013, 06:41 PM
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Hi colonelcake!

With A5o from the CO, I get a min-raise and two calls of the raise in front of me. With this much action, I need to muck ace/rag here. The majority of the time, one of these opps will have an A with a better kicker, so since I'm behind them (or anyone with a pair), I need to muck.
Playing marginal hands into multi-way pots is going to be a big chip leak for me over time and is something that I don't want to do.

I flop a gutshot draw on a paired board and have an opp bet 40. I now need to see if it's worth it to call. I need to call 40 into a pot that will be 410 (9.8%). My 4 outs to the gutshot are worth 2% each from the rule of 4 and 2, so my hand is worth 8%. Since the pot equity is higher than my hand equity, I need to fold to the bet on the flop.

I turn a straight, but now I get a large bet and a raise of this bet. This is clearly trouble, as a full house is definitely possible for any of the opps. While I do have a made hand, I need to muck to the bet and raise in front of me.

The same on the river. The board now has 2 pair, so I'm most likely beat and need to fold.

The keys with this hand are to muck marginal to bad hands preflop, espeically in multi-way pots. I also want to put chips into the pot when I expect to gain chips, not when I expect to lose chips... like the flop, turn, river here.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Thu May 02, 2013, 02:09 PM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

flophitter
 
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Passed! - Thu May 02, 2013, 03:33 PM
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Hello, I have passed the poker basics assessment.

Last edited by colonelcake; Thu May 02, 2013 at 03:41 PM..
 
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Reasons to make a big bet - Thu May 02, 2013, 03:43 PM
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These are the reasons for big bets:

1) put pressure on opponents
2) bluff people off decent hands
3) gain value from very strong hands
4) protect against strong draws
 
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Crazy hand - Thu May 02, 2013, 05:55 PM
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So I ended up losing a lot of my stack in this hand. How could I have gotten away from this? I think I should have folded after the flop. What would have been the best line to take here?

 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 06:42 AM
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Great thanks for answering the questions and posting the hand, we'll provide the analysis here soon. Just let me know when you pass the Cash Game quiz then I'll give you your next steps
 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 11:16 AM
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Hi colonelcake! I'll take a look at this hand.

The action in this one is pretty crazy. You have JJ UTG, and this is one of the few hands that are strong enough to open in this seat. A standard raise would be to 3bb (6c). I don't like your oversized raise to 12c. You should stick to standard sizes to disguise the strength of your hand, because you don't want other players to know exactly what you have. I'd raise 6c whether I have KK or 76s (if I was in late position, anyway).
The big problem with raising 6bb here is that it's very hard for worse hands to call. When you have a big hand, you want to get action from worse hands. But a hand like 87s or 44 (two hands you're way ahead of) aren't going to call a big raise.
Another reason to keep your bet size at 3bb is that if you get re-raised, you can fold (when appropriate) having lost the minimum. In this hand, there's a caller, but then a 3-bet re-raise and cold-call. JJ is almost never ahead when this action happens. Remember you opened UTG (repping a strong hand) and you opened BIG. For zomeone to 3-bet, they pretty much have to have aces or kings. At worst they will show up with AK.
When the action gets back to you, it's a really weird spot. There's already 87c in the pot and you have to call 18c, so the pot apparently lays good odds of almost 5:1, but you're definitely losing. The only way you can call here is to set-mine (try and flop a set of trips).
I usually want implied odds of 15 to 1 when going set-mining. To work out if we have the right odds, I add the money in the pot to the size of the effective stack to find out my maximum likely winnings, and then compare it to the price of calling.
The effective stack (shortest) is yours. Once you've called, you'll have $1.41, so that's how much more you can win if you flop a set and KK/AA misses. Add your stack to the dead money and we get 1.41+0.87 = $2.28
If this maximum winnings total is greater than 15 times the price of calling, then you can set-mine.
Unfortunately, you don't quite have the odds. With a price of 18c, you'd need to win 18*15 = $2.70 to break even.
So you should fold to the raise pre-flop.
As played, you call, but you don't make a set. You run into a common problem with JJ. You have an overpair, so it looks like your hand is in good shape, but against villain's range, it is crushed. Villain makes a big bet on the flop and you simply cannot call. He has at least QQ when he bets here, but usually KK or AA. You only have 2 outs to improve, so it is a losing play to call on the flop. The pot is massive after 77 and QQ call the big bet, so everyone is pot-commited on the turn. You finally realised your hand was no good, but you donated most of your stack here.

In future, keep your bet-sizes standard, partly to disguise the strength of your hand, and partly to stop the size of the pot getting out of control, especially when you are out of position. If you get lots of action when you have JJ, be more inclined to fold. If you don't have set-mining odds, it's best to minimise your losses at an early stage than get taken to valuetown by a better hand.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Passed the quiz - Sun May 05, 2013, 02:12 PM
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Hello,

I have passed the cash game course quiz. What are my next steps?

Thank you,

cake
 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 09:37 AM
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Hello colonelcake,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.


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