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Ed's Ring Table Blog - Defishyfying My Cash Game - Thu May 02, 2013, 08:50 AM
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DAILY NLHE CASH GAME RESULTS FROM 1st May 2013

DATE / Limit / No.Hands / Profit Loss / Cumulative Profit Loss
01-05-2013 / 2NL / 722 / $2.94 / $2.94
02-05-2013 / 2NL / 812 / $1.67 / $4.61
03-05-2013 / 2NL / 345 / $0.01 / $4.62
04-05-2013 / 2NL / 526 / $1.50 / $3.12
05-05-2013 / 2NL / 538 / $0.09 / $3.03
06-05-2013 / 2NL / 729 / $2.88 / $5.91
07-05-2013 / 2NL / 274 / $1.29 / $7.20
08-05-2013 / 2NL / 349 / $0.21 / $7.41
09-05-2013 / 2NL / 607 / $1.37 / $8.78
11-05-2013 / 2NL / 243 / $1.58 / $7.20
14-05-2013 / 2NL / 034 / $2.00 / $5.20
15-05-2013 / 2NL / 244 / $2.00 / $3.20
16-05-2013 / 2NL / 436 / $0.54 / $2.66
17-05-2013 / 2NL / 246 / $1.12 / $1.54
19-05-2013 / 2NL / 792 / $1.47 / $3.01
20-05-2013 / 2NL / 045 / $2.00 / $1.01
22-05-2013 / 2NL / 248 / $0.83 / $1.84
23-05-2013 / 2NL / 1087 / $3.60 / $5.44


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It has been a while since I set myself a challenge and tracked the results in a forum blog.

Yesterday I headed back to the No Limit Hold Em micro stakes cash tables and decided I will try to keep a record here to help with my focus and discipline.

Cash games are the weakest part of my game, and if I start getting back to my usual fishy ways it will show up here, so I am setting myself some rules and will try to stick to them.

I don't have any specific targets of number of hands to play or expectations of ROI - I just want to limit/cut out the losses and will try to get back to winning ways, reduce my errors and plug my leaks.

My self-imposed rules for NLHE cash games starting this month are:

$2 PER DAY LIMIT UNTIL $100 PROFIT
I shall start each day with a fresh $2.00 stack - 100BB at the 2NL Full Ring or 6Max tables, regular or ZOOM.

NO TOP UP
I won't be using the auto-top up feature, so if I lose chips I will have to fight my way back from a small stack and if I bust the $2 I will be done for that day.

ADDING TABLES USING DAILY PROFITS
Each day, if I am in profit, I will allow myself to use those profits to open extra tables. For example, I will start each day with just one table with $2 and if I double the stack to $4 I can choose either to continue to play deeper stacked or leave the table and join two others for $2 on each. I will not carry forward any profits to the next day, just book each days results as a profit (unlimited) or loss ($2 max) and start the next day's session with a fresh $2 stack.

MOVING TABLES
If my table becomes short handed, breaks up, or I just feel it is not going to be profitable I will move tables. I will only take the balance I have from the table/s I leave to any new tables:

If I am short stacked below $2 I will only buy in to one new table for the same amount

If I have any profits I may split the stack between 2 or more new tables, but should always join at least one table for $2 (so I will need at least a stack of $2.80 to join 2 tables - $2 + $0.80 min buy-in, but in practice will probably not buy-in to two tables unless I have close to $4 in total)


STICK TO 2NL UNTIL I HAVE PROFIT OF $100
I am prone to moving up the stakes at random, I regularly play 10NL, some 25NL and have even shown up at 50NL and 100NL on a couple of occasions.

Usually this happens whenever I feel I am playing really well and running good - ie normally well after midnight when I return from the pub. I often realise I am out of my depth because I spot Sandtrap at the table, so then I know it is time to leave.

I will stick to 2NL until I have made a profit of $100, when I will allow myself to take some $5 stacks to 5NL. If my profit falls back from $100 to $80 I will drop back to 2NL.

As I don't currently have a set bankroll put aside for this challenge, just the $2 per day limit, I will use any profits to build a roll for cash games going forward - so once I make it to 5NL I will set further bankroll parameters for moving up the stakes.

POST MY DAILY RESULTS HERE
I won't play every day, but when I do, I will post my daily results here at the TOP of this post, starting with yesterday's sessions which thankfully were positive.

EXCEPTIONS TO ABOVE RULES
If I am able to play the PSO Home Game cash games on the Wednesday/Saturday game training sessions I will exclude those sessions from this challenge, as they are a big part of my cash game poker education against a better standard pool of players so I don't want to be constrained - I will still post the results of those games here, but they will not count towards any profits/losses for this thread. So for instance I might use top-up or take $5 stacks to those games.

I shall write a proper blog for this in a few weeks and link it here, plus post my best/worst hands here and any tricky spots in the Hand Analysis section.

Good luck me!



Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan

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Thu May 02, 2013, 01:42 PM
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Good luck man! I like the set up. You'll be stirring up some of those survival instincts. Kind of a natural stop-loss without limiting your winnings. 1 table of 2NL is a little slow for my tastes though; I think I'd go insane.
 
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Thu May 02, 2013, 02:27 PM
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Good luck man! I like the set up. You'll be stirring up some of those survival instincts. Kind of a natural stop-loss without limiting your winnings. 1 table of 2NL is a little slow for my tastes though; I think I'd go insane.
Thanks Rockerguy

My main games these days are MTTs, but there is always room for a cash table or two on the side, especially if I am just playing in Freerolls/10-20FPP/PSO League games or 'supercheap' microtourneys.

I'm not much of a multi-tabler in any case - happy up to 4/5 tables but then my brain fuses.

At the stakes I play, without playing some cash tables it is hard to make the VPPs (100 for ChromeStar then 150 for PSO Premium content/prizes) that I try for most months. I can make 5 VPP per day just playing one/two tables 2NL, but I had a tendency to play less cash then try to earn VPPs faster playing higher levels, so I am going back to a steady regular session at the lowest 2NL level.

So far I have been very controlled, which is a big part of the exercise - I tend to be looser at cash than tourneys, knowing I can just top-up/reload - so I need to reign in that tendency and play every hand as best as I can even if it is only for a few cents.

On a table now and so far up again for day two - so hope I can book another daily profit and keep it going.

Cheers



Ed

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Thu May 02, 2013, 04:00 PM
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Lost my first full 100BB stack on a typical hand I should have got away from when I am 4-bet but decided to shove all-in...

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...967_94743DEED8

The opponent was looking a bit loose/aggressive but didn't really have enough hands to have a clear read - this is one common mistake I need to cut out.

Apart from this hand things are going OK so I am going to stick at the single cash table I am on while I play the 9pm WET Freerolls that have just popped up.

This will be a good reminder for me as well..

Ed
 
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Thu May 02, 2013, 04:24 PM
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Good luck with this. Keep us posted on your progress.


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Good luck with this. Keep us posted on your progress.
Thanks ArtySmokes -

I have noticed your blog posts on 2NL but not read through them yet - I need to go back over all the Full Ring low stakes material here.

Apart from the big bad hero shove with QQ above, mostly I have been using the 'tight is right' philosophy.

And looking to get paid with big hands - this was my best today.

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...628_726A2DE078

I was trying to get them off a flush draw, didn't reckon KK just didn't want to see another diamond - when the river bust all draws (barA4) I was surprised to see them get the rest in - suppose it made sense from their point of view - I could be on AK.

Ed

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Thu May 02, 2013, 05:33 PM
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The QQ hand isn't that terrible. You happened to have the worst hand this time, but villain will show up with AK sometimes too, and you can also suck out occasionally.

As for the JJ hand, you got all the money in the pot eventually, but you need to work on your bet-sizing. A set is a monster hand. You should be committed to getting your stack in at the earliest opportunity, by betting and raising. The last thing you should be doing is trying to "get him off a flush draw". We make money in poker from players CALLING with worse hands, not folding them. He won't hit a flush draw all that often, but you want to charge him the maximum if he's drawing, because he won't pay you off on the river if the draw misses.
On the flop, when villain donks out, he's saying "I have a king or a flush draw". You're beating those hands, so you should try and build a big pot. Raising to 10c isn't enough. After villain's bet, there is 17c in the middle. You should be betting about the size of the pot. I'd probably go with 15c.
Likewise on the turn, when villain redonks. After his bet, there is 87c in the middle. You only have $1.11 behind, so this the perfect time to go all in for big fat value. Villain will call with any king or draw, and there is no tricky decision on the river if it comes a diamond. When you a pot-sized raise (a shove here), villain will be making a mathematical mistake if he calls with any draw, but with so much money in the pot, he will feel committed to making that mistake.

To re-iterate: A flopped set is a monster hand, that you should immediatately start building a BIG pot with. Sets are my bread and butter at 2NL, because most villains are incapable of folding top pair (let alone 2 pairs) or a draw. So my advice is to try and get maximum value when you're almost certainly way ahead. Villains are definitely calling with worse.


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Sat May 04, 2013, 08:21 AM
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Yep Arty - A SET is A MONSTER!!!

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...664_A05587A2D0


http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...047_0017EB5968



Ed

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Sat May 04, 2013, 10:18 AM
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KK - not so much...

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...432_C30CA113AF

still ahead for the day but this has killed my profits

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Sat May 04, 2013, 10:21 AM
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And a few hands before getting my Cowboys crushed, I had made a disciplined fold of AA post-flop

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...468_178EBDFA8A

Ed

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Sat May 04, 2013, 02:00 PM
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OK I am going to slightly amend my rules here - I am up $0.50 today - I will book that as a profit- plus/minus any regular games I may play later.

In a couple hours I am going to play in the PSO Saturday game - I will not include these PSO Home Game cash games in this challenge, as they are a fun game against a much better pool of PSO players, so they go under 'poker education' and I will treat them separately. Of course I will still be trying to win!

I just hope nobody at PSO has been reading these posts and getting info on my cash game frailties...



Ed

Update - lost a full $2 stack after the PSO Home game, (see my pocket ducks hand below in post #14) so booked a loss for the day of $1.50 - my first negative daily finish.

In the Home Game I took a $5 stack and made a good profit of $4.57 - so about doubled my stack - but I lost connection at one point and my tracking software didn't record my biggest hand - I made a random aggressive reraise play with a trash hand (J4 suited - now posted below at #16) and flopped trips with 2 fours on the flop, then a jack came on the board too - giving me a weird small full-house. I got the chips in just as my computer crashed and I assume my opponent either called or folded - my stack was up significantly when I reconnected but I couldn't see the hand in the history or find it in PokerTracker. A mystery.

I shall try to find it and post it, but I am not booking my profits/losses from the PSO Home Games so it won't affect my challenge stack here.

Ed

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Sat May 04, 2013, 02:49 PM
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The sets were great. Very easy money for you when villains decided to go all virtually drawing dead. I love it when that happens.
KK vs AA was a cooler. I'm always going broke there.

I like the way you played AA too. Many (bad) players would raise the KKx flop, and get value-owned. Calling the two small bets is fine. It seems this villain was trapping. His bet-sizing was so stupid (small-small-overbet) that he made sure he won the minimum! Well played by you!


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Sat May 04, 2013, 03:06 PM
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The sets were great. Very easy money for you when villains decided to go all virtually drawing dead. I love it when that happens.
KK vs AA was a cooler. I'm always going broke there.

I like the way you played AA too. Many (bad) players would raise the KKx flop, and get value-owned. Calling the two small bets is fine. It seems this villain was trapping. His bet-sizing was so stupid (small-small-overbet) that he made sure he won the minimum! Well played by you!
Thanks for your input again Arty.

My problem with the KK hand was I was looking for other tables to join with every intention of leaving this one and putting $2 on 3 other tables. I don't mind playing deep stacked, in fact I prefer it a lot of the time, but getting involved with such a big stack compared to the blinds is going to increase variance a lot in the short term, and I am playing 'conservatively' for this challenge.

plus the other big stack was never getting involved light - I doubt if they would get in with JJ - so that leaves QQ/AA/AKs and the unlikely other kings. Don't know how often I am ahead of them, and overall equity is probably not to any great advantage.

A bit like the QQ hand from the other day - could be good - but how often?

I think controlling losses on these hands is an important factor at the microstakes - and without very good reasons QQ might be often too light to get all-in pre - and even in some rare cases KK might be a muck.

Just always difficult to get such a specific read that you can make those calls/folds at the right times.

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Sat May 04, 2013, 06:00 PM
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The sets don't always hold up

http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...492_BDEA3AE3A3

you should expect the opps draws will get there fairly often (I would go with the big hand/draw on this board - at the turn card)

Just need to win your due in the long run.

Another minor set-back - but we go again another day.

Ed

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Sat May 04, 2013, 07:14 PM
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This is another hand you played really well. I love your big fat raise on the flop on such a wet board. At no point in the hand did villain have the right odds to call. Even after he donked the turn (making him pot-committed) and you raised, the pot laid 4 to 1 on a call (which is usually a very tempting price), meaning he needed 20% equity to call. He actually had just 18% equity.
You'll make a ton of money against players like this in the long run. He way overvalued his top pair plus nut flush draw.


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Sun May 05, 2013, 02:20 AM
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A weird hand from the PSO Home Game

PokerStars Home Game Hand #98111794217: {PokerSchoolOnline Community} Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2013/05/04 21:50:21 WET [2013/05/04 16:50:21 ET]
Table 'PSO 2NL 9-Max' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: brettnz ($3.69 in chips)
Seat 2: MoodyMiss ($6.21 in chips)
Seat 3: DiveAllIn ($6.02 in chips)
Seat 4: EdinFreeMan ($6.76 in chips)
Seat 5: DrEllenCait ($7 in chips)
Seat 6: Bores Easily ($9.66 in chips)
Seat 7: Evgueny13 ($10.29 in chips)
Seat 8: Django66 ($4.97 in chips)
DiveAllIn: posts small blind $0.01
EdinFreeMan: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EdinFreeMan [4s Js]
DrEllenCait: folds
Bores Easily: folds
Evgueny13: folds
Django66: folds
brettnz: folds
MoodyMiss: raises $0.04 to $0.06
DiveAllIn: folds
EdinFreeMan: raises $0.12 to $0.18
MoodyMiss: calls $0.12
*** FLOP *** [4h 4d 7s]
EdinFreeMan: checks
MoodyMiss: bets $0.20
EdinFreeMan: calls $0.20
*** TURN *** [4h 4d 7s] [Jh]
EdinFreeMan: bets $0.20
MoodyMiss: calls $0.20
*** RIVER *** [4h 4d 7s Jh] [8c]
EdinFreeMan: bets $0.76
MoodyMiss: raises $1.58 to $2.34
EdinFreeMan: raises $1.58 to $3.92
MoodyMiss: folds
Uncalled bet ($1.58) returned to EdinFreeMan
EdinFreeMan collected $5.65 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.85 | Rake $0.20
Board [4h 4d 7s Jh 8c]
Seat 1: brettnz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MoodyMiss (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: DiveAllIn (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: EdinFreeMan (big blind) collected ($5.65)
Seat 5: DrEllenCait folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Bores Easily folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Evgueny13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Django66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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And this was a nice hand I picked up earlier in the home game - Chris 'ChewMe1' commented in training and correctly put me on a strong hand and specifically mentioned the set as a strong possibility and that it was a good fold from the opponent.

PokerStars Home Game Hand #98111123144: {PokerSchoolOnline Community} Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02 USD) - 2013/05/04 21:37:04 WET [2013/05/04 16:37:04 ET]
Table 'PSO 2NL 9-Max' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: brettnz ($3.97 in chips)
Seat 2: MoodyMiss ($4.90 in chips)
Seat 3: DiveAllIn ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: EdinFreeMan ($5.78 in chips)
Seat 5: DrEllenCait ($4.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Bores Easily ($9.69 in chips)
Seat 7: Evgueny13 ($9.44 in chips)
Seat 8: Django66 ($5 in chips)
Seat 9: Julia Remo ($9.53 in chips)
Evgueny13: posts small blind $0.01
Django66: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to EdinFreeMan [9h 9d]
Julia Remo: raises $0.04 to $0.06
brettnz: folds
MoodyMiss: folds
DiveAllIn: folds
EdinFreeMan: calls $0.06
DrEllenCait: folds
Bores Easily: folds
Evgueny13: folds
Django66: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Qd 4h]
Julia Remo: bets $0.09
EdinFreeMan: calls $0.09
*** TURN *** [9s Qd 4h] [Kh]
Julia Remo: bets $0.22
EdinFreeMan: raises $0.28 to $0.50
Julia Remo: calls $0.28
*** RIVER *** [9s Qd 4h Kh] [3s]
Julia Remo: checks
Evgueny13 said, "sick aggression"
EdinFreeMan: bets $0.81
Julia Remo: folds [Kd]
Uncalled bet ($0.81) returned to EdinFreeMan
EdinFreeMan collected $1.28 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1.33 | Rake $0.05
Board [9s Qd 4h Kh 3s]
Seat 1: brettnz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MoodyMiss folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DiveAllIn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: EdinFreeMan collected ($1.28)
Seat 5: DrEllenCait folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Bores Easily (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Evgueny13 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Django66 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Julia Remo folded on the River

I left the chat comment in...didn't notice it at the time as I rarely have chat open

Ed

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Sun May 05, 2013, 06:51 AM
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That J4 hand is very strange. I'd need a very good reason to 3-bet light as big blind defence with that hand, but as played, I'm always betting the 744 flop. Villain is never putting you on trips, so you can just bet-bet-bet. There's no need to get tricky and use the check-call-donk line.


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Thanks for the transfer Ed, wasn't expecting anything. I've been mostly playing elsewhere so it was a welcome bonus.

Good luck at the tables.
 
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Thanks for the transfer Ed, wasn't expecting anything. I've been mostly playing elsewhere so it was a welcome bonus.

Good luck at the tables.
Cheers Ovalman you are welcome - thanks for the support - hope you are running good too.



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