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show me the money - Fri May 03, 2013, 04:57 AM
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well, i have just recently started playing poker seriously. and tell you what, its real hard to build a bankroll and even harder to keep it intact once u ve built one.

hope the pokerschool shows me how to do that.

coz its all about the money baby.

SHOW ME THE MONEY POKERSTARS

COZ I M READY to put in the hours

smooth sailing
 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 05:14 AM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

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Fri May 03, 2013, 08:32 AM
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tks royalraise85

anyways, like i said b4, have lost my bankroll again

from 140grand to zilch
just like i did 2 days back, from more than 200grand to zilch

good thing it was play money, had it been the real deal, it wud have proly made me comatose

 
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Fri May 03, 2013, 03:21 PM
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Hi timallen17,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
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Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
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Sat May 04, 2013, 09:24 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner


had absolutely no idea that he had KK
 
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Sat May 04, 2013, 09:35 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Sat May 04, 2013, 09:59 AM
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cheers royalraise85

also i believe i have completed the course and passed the test that is required.

tks for the quick reply

smooth sailing
 
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Sun May 05, 2013, 04:54 AM
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hi there

i believe i have completed all three steps of the bankroll promotion

also just started playing well again in the PS tournaments
not as well as i can or wish but still better than when i started this month

hope to be in the top 1000 in the rankings

chao
 
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Sun May 05, 2013, 11:26 AM
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hi there

its happening again and again now
increasingly finding myself against KK or AA, and have lost either huge pots or been knocked out from very decnt positions.

ISNT THERE ANY WAY TO PEG UR OPPONENT ON KK or AA

smooth sailing
 
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Sun May 05, 2013, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by timallen17 View Post
Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner


had absolutely no idea that he had KK
Hi timallen17

I suggest folding small suited connectors from such early position. These hands are best played from late postion when the threat of getting raised is small. Speculative hands like this do not win often. Therefore, it is important to see the flop cheaply. Raising as you did is very dangerous, and typically costly. The 3-bet is almost always a very strong hand. Moreover, he is going to have positon on you. You definately should fold at to this raise.

As played, you got a decent flop. I would sugget 3betting all in on the flop. If you don't want to play this aggressively, then it would be better to check-call and hope you hand improves on the turn.

As played, you should fold to the river bet. The villain has shown strength betting and raising every single street. All you have is bottom pair. Your hand will pretty much never be ahead here.

Finally, this hand seems to come from a sng. In sngs you do not have deep enough stacks to play speculative hands from early postion as you did. In sngs, save every single chip you can until you have a strong hand. Then play aggressively!

NOTE: Playing anything other than full ring cash games can get you disqualified from the bankroll builder promo! Please stick to full ring cash games.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Sun May 05, 2013, 05:19 PM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

and this is what happens when i wait a long time , play it cool and then get aces

it doesnt even make sense why he calls............and he wins


PS; does it mean that i have qualified to play cash games///
 
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Sun May 05, 2013, 10:30 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

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Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

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Mon May 06, 2013, 12:43 AM
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hi there

WOW

just played my first cash game
fffffffffffooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....... .......it was exciting

anyways, played quite conservatively. went in with 80 cents. came back with 1.08 dollars.

never went below 75 cents or above 1.14 dollars.

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just wondered if i cud have made more with this hand

what do you guys think
 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 05:52 AM
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I AM BROKE

ITS ALL GONE

 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 06:13 AM
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3 reasons why a player may want to make a big be


To bluff people off decent hands

To gain value from very strong hands

To protect against strong draws
 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 09:20 AM
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Hi Tim! I'll take a look at the A6s hand.

While this is a decent starting hand if you are in late position, as it can be used to try and steal the blinds, or you can call a raise in position and try hitting two pairs or a flush draw, it's not strong enough to open in early position. It's very difficult to make money when you play hands out of position, because when you make a hand and bet it, villains can fold their worse hands (so you don't get any value) or they can raise to make you fold (so you lose a bunch of money).
If I'm dealt A6s and there are six players yet to act, I'm folding 100% of the time. Making a standard raise in late position would be OK, but when you raise in this seat, you're likely to get called by at least one player, and you'll miss the flop about 70% of the time. See my blog for advice on which hands you can open-raise with in each position.

As played, you raised and were called in two spots. The CO has position on you, but the SB does not, but the latter will be able to check the flop to see what you do before making his decision.
You get a pretty decent flop for A6: top pair on a ragged 642 rainbow. Villains are unlikely to have hit this board. There is no flush draw, and it would be strange if one of the callers has 53 for the flopped straight. There are a few hands that could beat you here though. If villains called with small pairs, they will have a set of trips or a gutshot straight draw. With a medium pair, a villain will have an overpair. Sets have you completely crushed, and overpairs are also beating you. If you get action on this flop, you're almost certainly losing.
Your flop bet is way too big for this situation. There are no worse hands that will call a pot-sized bet. You'll only get action from better hands. Since you're either way ahead or way behind, you should make your bet smaller. This will mean you can get away from your hand for a cheap price if a villain raises, repping an overpair, set or straight. By betting so big, you are at risk of getting "valueowned". Don't make big bets with weak hands if you can't get called by worse. Only make big bets when you have very strong hands (two pairs+) and the board is very wet with lots of draws.
Fortunately for you, everyone folds to your bet. If someone had called, you'd probably be losing your stack, because you've bloated the pot way too much considering the strength of your hand.

In future, be more careful with regard to the hands you play. Think about your position. Don't play marginal hands out of position if you can help it. When you're considering making a big bet, ask yourself if worse hands can call. If no worse hands can call, don't make such a big bet! Get value by making a smaller bet.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Mon May 06, 2013, 11:07 AM
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Hi Tim,

Please let us know when you have passed the cash game quiz. The quiz is your final requirement to advance to step three and receive your next bonus! Until then consider a little more practice at the play money tables.

Good luck in your endeavors.

Joss


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Mon May 06, 2013, 12:11 PM
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thanks a lot artysmokes

ur analysis was really really good

also i went thro the cash game course and thro the hand chart

it confirms what ur saying

and i tried to follow ur advice and the cash game course advice in the last ps tournament and hubble tournament and fineshed in the top 400 in both

cant believe all the trash hands i used to play before

i mean.............the results were immediate

will try to play the same way after my next bonus

chao
 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 12:13 PM
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will post as soon as i m done with the cash game quiz

thanks a lot JOSS
 
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Tue May 07, 2013, 06:45 AM
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Hi there Joss

i have passed the cash game quiz and am ready for my next bonus.

do let me know what i need to do next

smooth sailing
 

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