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Bankroll Builder - Sat May 04, 2013, 12:48 PM
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I would also like to join the Bankroll Builder promotion.
 
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Sat May 04, 2013, 12:52 PM
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I would also like to join the Bankroll Builder promotion.
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Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

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We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

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Sat May 04, 2013, 07:05 PM
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Hi Affluenza,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Sun May 05, 2013, 11:12 AM
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Sun May 05, 2013, 10:37 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Please let us know when you have passed the poker basics course.
Cheers.


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Mon May 06, 2013, 09:07 AM
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Hi i passed the basics course
 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 09:48 AM
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Hi Affluenza! I'll take a look at this playmoney hand, and then a moderator will get you on to the real money tables.

As is common in playmoney games, everyone limps into the pot (just calls the big blind). You're in the BB with J8. This is a weak hand, but you don't have to put any more money in the pot. You correctly check your option. In multiway pots, you typically need to make a very strong hand (at least top two pairs) in order to beat multiple opponents, so making one pair is probably not going to be enough.
The flop comes a JT5 rainbow. This is a pretty good flop for you, as you made top pair, but your kicker isn't great. There's no flush draw, but hands like KQ and 98 have an open-ended straight draw. I like leading out with a bet for value. This will get some players to fold and help you make a plan for later streets. Your bet size of half pot is OK, but I'd probably make it a little more, because you're very likely to be called in a multiway pot. You don't want to give good odds to various random hands that have a decent chance to beat you, like AT, AQ, KT. You want to get value from those hands while you're ahead. Bear in mind that with your average kicker, you're already losing to AJ, KJ, QJ, while JT has you almost drawing dead with two pairs.
Only 2 players fold, so you're 4-handed on the turn. The 8d is a good card for you, because you made two pairs, although it's not the best possible two pairs. There's now a flush draw on the board, and a few more straight draws. If a villain called on the flop with the Q9 open-ended straight draw, they just got there. With two pairs on a board that has many draws, you need to bet big for value and protection and to define your hand. If you bet big, then a villain will never try a bluff. If he raises you, it's because he has the best hand, so you can make a good laydown. With the pot at 210 and against 3 opponents, I'd bet something like 180. You should never bet less than half pot on the flop or turn with a made hand, as the cheap price will mean villains aren't making a mistake by calling with a draw. We make money in poker from our opponent's mistakes. Your bet of 90 into 210 isn't big enough. All the villains call. See JWK24's blog on how to size our bets to make it a mistake for villains to call with draws.
Also bear in mind that if a villain is on a draw, he won't pay you off on the river if the draw misses, so you have to get the value NOW, while he's still drawing.
The river is a terrible card for you. The only worse card would be the Ad, because that would also complete the flush draw. This ace completes the other obvious draw. KQ had an open-ended straight draw on the flop, and just made Broadway. With 3 villains in the pot with you, there's a high likelihood that one of them was on this draw.
The ace is bad in another respect. Anyone that was calling with a hand like AJ, AT or A5 just made two pairs that beat yours.
Since this river card is so ugly, I'd usually check-fold here, as I don't think you're ever good against this many opponents. Betting is really thin, because it's hard to get called by worse that J8. As played, you bet about half pot and a villain makes a big raise. This just screams "I have the nuts" to me, and I'd be insta-folding. At microstakes, villain's aren't bluffing all that often. On the river especially, a raise represents something close to the nuts. You've put a lot of your stack in the middle, so probably felt compelled to call here, but two pairs that aren't even the best two pairs on the board is never good in this situation.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Mon May 06, 2013, 10:29 AM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Mon May 06, 2013, 02:39 PM
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Thanks for the hand analysis! Yeah i thought he was on a draw from the turn but had a already committed so much of my stack i couldn't fold.

Would have never put him on a KQ he raised my 3x with that? I put him on a A with decent kicker but got it wrong.
Should i have pushed all in pre flop?

 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 02:48 PM
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3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

To bluff people off decent hands
To gain value from very strong hands
To protect against strong draws
 
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Mon May 06, 2013, 06:35 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Tue May 07, 2013, 03:07 AM
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Thanks for the hand analysis! Yeah i thought he was on a draw from the turn but had a already committed so much of my stack i couldn't fold.

Would have never put him on a KQ he raised my 3x with that? I put him on a A with decent kicker but got it wrong.
Should i have pushed all in pre flop?

Hi Affluenza!

This is a very tough spot preflop. Opening with a 3bb raise is perfect However, you get a mini 3-bet from the btn who has position on you. Calling 3-bets out of postion is normally not a good idea. Typically it is better to 4-bet or fold. You are going to be out of positon, and acting without information, on every street fopr the rest of the hand. There are very many overcards that can come on the flop making it difficult to play JJ. You said you put the villain on A with a decent kicker, AQ would fit that description, as would AK, QQ, KK and AA. Plus perhaps a few other hands. Narrowing the villain's 3-bet range is difficult without a read. The mini-reraise is either a tell of a very strong hand such as AA being slowplayed, or a weak steal attempt with a weaker hand as in this case.

With a read we may have been able to 4-bet preflop. However, without a read, I recommend folding preflop here. In general, until you have gained more experience, I suggest folding everything except KK and AA when you get 3-bet and are out of postion.

As played, calling the all in on the flop is a mistake. The villain has shown great strength reraising preflop and again on the flop. We need to give him credit for having a strong hand. You have middle pair which is not strong enough to call an all in with.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Tue May 07, 2013, 07:48 PM
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Hi Affluenza,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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