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two pair vs. two pair - Sun May 05, 2013, 06:05 PM
vr84's Avatar
Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 2
Hi all,

I'm confused about this situation I always thought the highest pair wins and the second pair doesn't matter and it goes to kicker. So for example if:

Player A has Q5

Player B has 77

Community cards are 4 A A 2 2

Who wins?

Thanks in advance!
Sun May 05, 2013, 06:13 PM
mike2198's Avatar
Since: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,485
Your hand is AA22Q his is AA774 the only time it wins by a kicker is if you both have the same 2 pair
Sun May 05, 2013, 06:15 PM
ArtySmokesPS's Avatar
Since: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,346
The way to solve the problem is to always ask "What is the best five-card hand that each player can make using the board cards and either or both of his hole cards?"

The best 5-card hand that Player A can make is AA22Q (aces and deuces with a queen kicker).

The best 5-card hand that Player B can make is AA774 (aces and sevens with a 4 kicker).

So player B wins. His aces and sevens beat aces and deuces.

If the board had instead come 4 A A J J, then the player with sevens will lose. Using all 7 cards, he'd have "three pairs", but the best five-card hand for him would be AAJJ7 (aces and jacks with a 7 kicker). The guy with Q5 never made a pair, but using the board cards he'd have AAJJQ (aces and jacks with a queen kicker).

Small pairs get counterfeited like this sometimes, which is why low-rank hole cards can get you into trouble. I've lost count of the times I've had a hand like 87 and the board comes 87522 and I lose to pocket nines that used the running deuces to make a better two pairs than my 8s and 7s.

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Sun May 05, 2013, 06:18 PM
vr84's Avatar
Since: Apr 2013
Posts: 2
Makes a lot of sense now. Thanks again for the quick and detailed responses!
Sun May 05, 2013, 07:08 PM
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