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bankroll builder participation - Wed May 08, 2013, 04:14 AM
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I want to take part in the bankroll builder promotion.

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Wed May 08, 2013, 07:04 AM
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I want to take part in the bankroll builder promotion.

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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Fri May 10, 2013, 06:47 AM
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I want to take part in the bankroll builder promotion.

help me!
Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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I have done! - Fri May 10, 2013, 08:57 PM
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I have done all!
I hope you see this as soons as possible!
want to go next stage!
 
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Sat May 11, 2013, 01:13 PM
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Hi dosaa7!

With AK from mid position and 2 limpers in front of me, I will make a standard raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper. Due to this, I will raise to 50 (5BB). I want to keep all of my bets and raises standard in order to conceal the strength of my hand. Players that bet more with better hands and less with marginal ones are basically turning their cards face-up to their opponents, which is something that I want to aviod.

I miss the flop and when it checks to me, I can go about this two ways. With five opps, I can check and hope to see a free turn card (which I'll do probably about 30-40% of the time). The other 60-70% of the time, I will make a c-bet here and due to the number of opps, I need to size my bet at the size of the pot... BUT... I don't have this many chips, so I'll need to shove the flop.

I miss the turn and check again. Now, there is a bet and a call of 150. The question now is, should I call. If I call, I need to put 150 into a pot that will be 880 (17%). From the rule of 4 and 2, my six outs (if the opp has a J) are worth 2% equity each, so my hand has 12% equity.
Since my pot equity is higher than my hand equity, I need to fold to this bet.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Sun May 12, 2013, 07:53 AM
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I have done all!
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

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I have done all! - Sun May 12, 2013, 09:57 PM
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Hello! I have passed the Cash Game course.

the three reasons I'd want to make a big bet is 1.to get value from my made hands 2.to put pressure on an opponent 3.to bluff.







I have done all! Please give me next task as soon as possible.

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Mon May 13, 2013, 07:05 AM
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Hello! I have passed the Cash Game course.
Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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I have lost my whole real money ;( - Mon May 13, 2013, 08:11 PM
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I have lost whole of my real money

Please help me. what should I do?
 
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Tue May 14, 2013, 06:40 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Wed May 15, 2013, 02:27 AM
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I have lost whole of my real money

Please help me. what should I do?
Hi dosaa7!

First hand This hand is very weak. I strongly recommend folding this 100% preflop. It is not strong enough to play and not strong enough to try to steal the blinds with. Note, you were trying to bluff steal in a spot where you needed to get through three players and both blinds have deep stacks. This as a low chance of succeeding.

As played, you tried to steal but got called and completely missed the flop. Don't make matters worse. Just check fold the rest of the hand. Check - raising the turn as you did is an extremely expensive bluff. I'm glad you folded to the 3-bet though.

I strongly recommend sticking to straight forward play at 2NL. Bet your strong made hands and fold your weak hands. You can't win every hand and fancy play like this results in big losses more often than big wins.

Second hand Your huge all in raise created a situation in which you value owned yourself! This is a very important concept to understand. AQ is often a strong enough hand to 3-bet with. However, a standard 3-bet is 3x the original raise. Make it 18 cents rather than shoving for your whole 66 cent stack. All the hands in the villain's range that you are beating, especially weaker aces will usually fold to such a large raise. This means you WIN LESS money than you could have with your winning hands. The only hands likely to call your raise are the hands that are beating you. This means you LOSE MORE when you are behind. We want to be doing the opposite winning big and losing small


As I mentioned with the first hand. Try to focus on the fundamentals. Both of these hands are big losses in spots that your actions created and that could have been avoided. Work on playing solid poker and the wins will start coming

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roalnd GTX
 
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Wed May 15, 2013, 02:44 AM
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Thank you Roland GTX! I learned some from your advices.
 
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Wed May 15, 2013, 04:11 AM
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Thank you Roland GTX! I learned some from your advices.
Brilliant,

Your Bankroll Builder progress is moving along nicely and you will receive your 3rd bonus later today!

Step Three

Now we really want you to up your game! Your challenge is to earn 10 VPPs after getting today's buy-in.

Note that any VPPs that you have earned up to this point won't count, only those earned AFTER you get your 3rd buy-in.

When you hit your target of 10 VPPs we will award you with your final Bankroll Builder bonus. Let us know when you reach the target.

Also, if you make a deposit at this stage we will also award you with your final bonus.

Best of Luck at the tables and let us know as soon as you have earned the 10 VPPs or if you make a deposit.

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I don't have enough money to join the game - Wed May 15, 2013, 09:56 PM
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I have just 0.78$ so i can't join the ring games

It's just 4.09VPPs left to hit 10VPPs ;(

I made an effort to hit the 10VPPs.. I What should I do?

Can I participate Sit&Go or something?

I think I can win better at Sit&Go than ring games

Please help me!

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Thu May 16, 2013, 04:53 AM
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I have just 0.78$ so i can't join the ring games
No worries,

Simply post the hands using the hand replayer where you lost the $1.22 after you got your last bonus. Once we anlayse them for you we will continue on from there

Remember that this is a cash game promotion only so SnG's or any other game other than $0.01/$0.02 cent cash games won't count.

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Thu May 16, 2013, 08:34 AM
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I didn't save my hand where I lost the 1.22$ and I participated in pokerschool open skill leage. So the hand might be deleted.
Please give me advice.
 
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Thu May 16, 2013, 09:21 AM
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I didn't save my hand where I lost the 1.22$ and I participated in pokerschool open skill leage. So the hand might be deleted.
Please give me advice.
Hi,

You should have them saved on your hard drive (see opening video above).

But if you can't find them there don't worry, simply email support@pokerstars.com and ask them to email you back with all your cash game only hands for the dates on which you lost the money. They will happily assist you.

Unfortunately we cannot give you another bonus until you post your losing hands

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Thu May 16, 2013, 09:47 PM
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Thank you for your advice and I found my hands.



 
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Fri May 17, 2013, 06:00 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Fri May 17, 2013, 10:55 AM
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Hi dosaa7! I'll take a look at these two hands.

1. You have QT in the big blind and can see a free flop because 2 villains limped in. With this hand, I'm generally looking to flop a good draw and try and make the nuts, or to win a small pot when I make one pair. If I ever find myself playing a big pot with just one pair, I'm usually losing, so I'd be cautious in this spot. You check and the flop comes a T84 rainbow (no flush draw). This is good flop for you, because you made top pair, but unfortunately you're unlikely to get much action from worse hands as the board is so dry. Nonetheless, I definitely like betting for value, because I don't want villains to have a free chance to out-draw me. Your bet is just a minbet, 2c into 8c. This bet is weak and doesn't serve much purpose. If a villain has a draw, like with J9, then you're giving him a bargain price to chase it. Always bet at least half pot on the flop and turn, to get value for your hand and to make it a mistake for draws to call.
Betting small also looks so weak that a villain may put in a big raise and bluff you off your hand. Here villain makes a pot-sized raise. This might be a bluff, but generally I think he's making this play because he has a strong hand and he wants to build a big pot. I'd put him on at least top pair (probably with a king or ace kicker), but he could have flopped a set of 8s or 4s. I think it's best to fold here, because you're out of position and likely to face another big bet on the turn, and you're not really beating anything but bluffs.
The turn is an ace. On this street, villains will reveal a lot about the strength of their hands. The ace in particular is a "scare card". If villain had a hand like KT, then he'd be worried you just made a better top pair. But villain doesn't look scared by this card. He makes a bet of almost the size of the pot. This means that the ace either improved his hand, or he could already beat a pair of aces, because he has a set. You should never be calling here. Instead of thinking about your own hand so much ("I have a pair of tens"), think about all the other hands possible on the board, and try and narrow villain's range according to his actions. He's making big bets, so he must have a big hand. I think he has two pairs or a set almost always, and you're drawing dead. It's obviously a mistake to put money in the pot drawing dead, so you should definitely fold.
The river comes an 8, which pairs the board, so now trips and full houses are possible. You still only have one pair with an average kicker. Villain puts you all in. He is never bluffing here and he is never making this play with a hand like Q9. He has you beat 100% of the time.
I'm afraid you overvalued your own hand this time, and got taken to Valuetown and lost your whole stack. In future, try not to be a calling station. One pair is seldom the best hand at showdown. If a villain is betting and raising on all three streets, then he can beat one pair, so fold as soon as you realise you're behind. In this case, the flop would be the best place to fold, but you should definitely cut your losses on the turn.

2. With 22 in the small blind, facing a raise, it's fine to call and go set-mining. The plan is quite simple. If you flop a set of trips, then start betting and raising in order to get your whole stack in at the earliest opportunity. If you don't flop a set, then don't put a single cent in the pot. "No set, no bet" is the rule. On this AK6 flop, you missed completely, and villain bets, probably because he has an ace. You made the correct play, which was to fold. Well done!

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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