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[JK] Bankroll Builder - Sat May 11, 2013, 12:19 PM
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Hi,

I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.

Thanks!
 
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Sat May 11, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Hi,

I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.

Thanks!
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Sat May 11, 2013, 07:39 PM
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Hello Patrunjica,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

John (JWK24)


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Sat May 11, 2013, 09:10 PM
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Hi John,

I have completed all of the steps outlined, here is the hand I wanted to ask you about:



With so many players in the pot behind me pre-flop, is it better to call, raise or fold when dealt with such a speculative hand?

Cheers!
 
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Sun May 12, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Hi Patrunjica!

The SB is the position at the table where I want to be playing the fewest number of hands due to the positional disadvantage that it has preflop. With this being the case, I normally want to make a standard raise preflop (3BB+1BB for each limper) if I'm going to play the hand. However, there are cases where I would complete (speculative hands or low/mid pairs). When I do complete, my plan for the flop is to lead bet it.

I flop the nut flush draw, but with the board being paired, I need to always be worried about someone hitting a full house. With 5 opps in the hand, my standard lead bet would be a pot-sized bet and that's what I'll make on the flop, a bet of 12. I want to lower the number of opps in the hand to try to make playing the turn/river easier.

I turn two pair with the flush draw and here once again, I need to make a value bet here and due to the large number of opps in the hand, I need to make a pot-sized bet (12 chips). I do not want someone to get a free card to try to beat me by hitting a river card higher than a 4.

The river gives me the bottom full house and here, if I had bet the previous streets, I'd check and hope to get to showdown cheaply. But, with no bets on the flop nor turn, I need to make a pot-sized value bet of 12 chips.

Playing speculative hands is ok. It's better to play them from IN position than out of position. The key is that I do not want to play any hand that I'm involved with passively. When I'm in a hand, I want to be aggressive with my plays, especially when out of position.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Sun May 12, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Brilliant Patrunjica!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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Sun May 12, 2013, 03:02 PM
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1) Here's a hand where I'm not sure I took the proper line; specifically:

- Should I have checked behind on such a coordinated flop?
- Was it ok to get involved considering the large raise by the UTG?
- Was my re-raise to large?



2) Three reasons why a player may want to make a big bet:

- To protect against strong draws
- To gain value from a strong hand
- To apply pressure on the opponent

3) I have studied and passed the Cash Game quiz.


Cheers!

Last edited by Patrunjica; Sun May 12, 2013 at 03:04 PM..
 
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Sun May 12, 2013, 03:53 PM
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Hi Patrunjica!

This promotion is ONLY for FULL RING games. Please only play them. If you play any more 6-max tables, you will be ineligible for any future bonuses from this promotion.

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Sun May 12, 2013, 05:46 PM
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Ah, apologies. Here's a hand I just played on a Full Ring table:



Should I have been more aggressive in order to bring down the pot? At the moment I was thinking I was getting a great price to chase down my straight, what would be the correct play in a situation like that?
 
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Mon May 13, 2013, 03:53 AM
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1) Here's a hand where I'm not sure I took the proper line; specifically:

- Should I have checked behind on such a coordinated flop?
- Was it ok to get involved considering the large raise by the UTG?
- Was my re-raise to large?



2) Three reasons why a player may want to make a big bet:

- To protect against strong draws
- To gain value from a strong hand
- To apply pressure on the opponent

3) I have studied and passed the Cash Game quiz.


Cheers!
Hi Patrunjica!

Nice aggressive preflop line! I recommmend 3-betting 3x the original raise + 1x for each caller. I would have made it 24, but 26 is fine. What do you this the villain would call your 3-bet with? Spots like this are where reads are a must. Without a read I would assume he has a pocket pair or AQs+ with pairs being most likely.

The flop is all low cards which are unlikely to have helped you from the villain's perspective. And, they are connected and suited. You are behind most of the villain's range right now. I would check your option on the flop and hope to improve on the turn. You are getting a free card in an unlcear spot. I would take it rather than risk getting check raised by 1010, JJ, QQ type of hand.

If the villain checks the turn, you might take a stab at the pot. If he leads I think I would fold.

As played, good fold

GL and have fun at the full ring tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Mon May 13, 2013, 04:21 AM
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Ah, apologies. Here's a hand I just played on a Full Ring table:



Should I have been more aggressive in order to bring down the pot? At the moment I was thinking I was getting a great price to chase down my straight, what would be the correct play in a situation like that?
Hi again Patrunjica!

I strongly suggest folding weak hands like every time preflop, no matter what your position. Your heart is in the right place punishing the limper with a raise, but this hand is just too weak to profitably make this play. You are basically turning your hand into a bluff. If you go to the flop you will have a very unclear situation. I suggest sticking to solid startng hands. They make it much easier for confident postflop play. Your hand has very little potential to flop well.

As played, the min-bet on the flop looks really weak. Since you have already turned your hand into a bluff, I would have taken an aggressive line and raised the flop to 8 cents. Your line will look very strong. You have little or no showdown value. So the only way you are going to win the pot is to take it down before the showdown. The villain will most likely fold, if he doesn't you need to check-fold the rest of the hand unless you get a lucky 10 for the straight. It would have been better not to be in this spot to begin with

As far as chasing, you only have 10s to help you. If you had an open ended draw, then calling the flop would be ok. With only 4 outs, I wouldn't chase.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Mon May 13, 2013, 11:58 AM
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Hello Patrunjica,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

John (JWK24)


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Thu May 16, 2013, 05:40 AM
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Hi John,

I have earned the 10 VPPs needed for the 3rd bonus playing 1/2 full ring games.

Cheers!
 
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Thu May 16, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Hi Patrunjica!

It can take 48-72 hours for these to show. Currently, I show you with 9.45VPP's total. What you need to get to is 10VPP's ONLY after the second bonus (the VPP's from before this don't count). If you have gotten to 10 only after the second bonus, the system should update in a day or two.

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Fri May 17, 2013, 06:56 AM
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Strange, I had about 13 VPPs when I posted that message, I earned some more points since then as it currently shows me at 23 VPPs.

Are there any more tasks that I need to complete?
 
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Fri May 17, 2013, 10:18 AM
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Hello Patrunjica,

Fantastic!

Your third Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

There are three ways in which you can earn your last bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 3rd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 4th bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 3rd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

John (JWK24)


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Sat May 18, 2013, 10:22 PM
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Hi John,

I collected my 4th bonus, what other tasks can I move on to?

Cheers!

Last edited by Patrunjica; Sun May 19, 2013 at 04:50 AM..
 
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Sun May 19, 2013, 06:11 AM
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I collected my 4th bonus, what other tasks can I move on to?

Cheers!
Congratulations!

As you've earned enough VPP's we have awarded you with all your Bankroll Builder buy-ins and you have successfully completed the promotion, good job!

You are always welcome to post any troublesome hands in the >>Hand Analysis<< section.

Also it is a good idea to review some of the content on >>Bankroll Management<< at this point.

Keep in touch with us and let us know how your poker journey continues.

Raiser


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