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5nl AK OOP - Mon May 13, 2013, 03:29 AM
cheesyfish's Avatar
Since: Dec 2012
Posts: 8
Turn x/shove too spewy on this hand? Not sure how I would've done it differently though, villain can have 22/44 here sometimes and when he raises flop, couldn't think of any other hands which I beat. Also if we do b/c in this spot, are we folding to most turn cards?

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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $5.01
BB: $7.00 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: $1.59 (VPIP: 18.24, PFR: 18.34, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 176)
BTN: $4.40 (VPIP: 63.16, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with ,
2 folds, Hero bets $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.73, Hero calls $0.53

Turn: ($1.76) (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.31, Hero raises to $4.13 (All-In)

Last edited by cheesyfish; Mon May 13, 2013 at 03:46 AM..
Mon May 13, 2013, 01:28 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
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Hi cheesy,

I actually think check/calling the turn is better. I mean I feel very good about having the best hand (if he's got a boat, nh), but the best way to maximize value is not to check-shove. Consider his range in this spot. It's blind v blind so we can expect to get defended and played back at looser (it's the one spot where people tend to lose their minds more than any other). So when he raises our flop c-bet on a Q42 rainbow board, his range consists of:

Monsters - Very few combos of these, basically just 44 and 22. It doesn't matter how we play, we are getting stacks in on either the turn or river here.

Qx - We are going to win against most of these obviously. Again I suggest it doesn't matter what we do on the turn, we are getting stacks in either now or on the river.

Pairs - stuff like 55, A4, etc. If we check-shove we let him off the hook with these hands. If we just call however, we can extract more value on the river.

Bluffs - Blind v blind we would expect at least some bluffs present. Again check-shoving lets him off the hook, but calling keeps those bluffs in.

I prefer to call (which puts 4.38 in the pot and leaves us 2.82 behind), then lead river really small like $1. This gives him a compelling price to call with showdown value hands like A4 (which will often check behind if we check the river and show down free), as well as leaves him room to think he has some fold equity on a bluff shove as our bet looks like a cheap steal or a blocker bet. The nice thing is a hand like QJ won't be intimidated by this bet and may well shove thinking it's good so we will often still get full stack value from the dominated Q's.

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Wed May 15, 2013, 05:59 AM
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Since: Dec 2012
Posts: 8
ty Lango, solid advice. got it in on turn, he showed up with 4s full, and I spiked an A on the river.

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