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AA - Sat May 18, 2013, 12:57 PM
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How do i get more value out of this hand, i know that the chance of anyone having an ace is slim so im hoping they got a draw or king atleast but no they never do can i check here because i would rather fold if a flush hit than make a measley 18c or w/e it was i would rather risk the chance of a flush coming out in hoping it doesnt and 1 of them actually makes a pair thinking there ahead what do you think?

Even with all those players in the pot im sure the chance of one of them rivering something better than my aces are slim i think i could give 1 free card here?
 
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Sat May 18, 2013, 01:14 PM
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I am NEVER giving a free card here. I wouldn't even slowplay this if I was heads up, but in a multiway pot, you should absolutely be making a value bet, because with 3 villains in the pot, you are much more likely to get action.
It's actually pretty amazing that you got 3 callers pre-flop, because most of the time when you have AA, villains won't have a playable hand.

Given the pre-flop action, villains are likely to have medium/small pairs, but the blinds were getting decent odds to call with suited connectors. You're obviously getting called by all flush draws on this flop. It would be criminal not to bet this flop when villains can definitely have hands to call with. What do you do, if you check the flop and the turn is the king of hearts, and a villains pots it?
Don't slowplay yourself to death. Get value when you can. If a villain has 77, you're winning his stack. Well you do if you bet. You don't win stacks by checking.

I'd actually be really pleased with the result here as it is. Most of the time when I raise with AA, I'm lucky if I get one caller, let alone three, so I'd usually be winning about 8c. You made a profit of 23c. That's 11.5bb, which is actually above average for AA in the long run. (Your winrate with AA is usually somewhere between 8 and 12bb per hand).


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Sat May 18, 2013, 01:22 PM
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I agree. If I bet less that 3/4 pot on the flop and an opp stays and hits the flush, it would be MY OWN FAULT that I lose the hand. It's a play I want to avoid at all times, as I want to be making +EV bets (ones where I expect to gain chips), not a play where the opp expects to gain chips from me.

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Sat May 18, 2013, 01:57 PM
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I knew you guys was gonna say that if the flush did hit or even a straight im disciplined enough to fold a massive bet or raise, ok lets say the board was a little less dangerous we could slow play 1 street? That board had all sorts going on thats why i was shocked when i had no callers theres a load of hands that could see the turn atleast.

By slow playing i don't mean if i was the preflop raiser out of position that im gonna check i would only ever think of checking in position when people have checked the flop because you can pretty much guarantee at 2nl regs are betting that flop with a draw and fish are putting 2c to 4c in on that flop so i was pretty confident there were no drawing hands there.

With the players i keep coming across at at zoom there so bad that they just call down with mid pairs thats why i wanna get them to hit a card.
 
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Sat May 18, 2013, 02:17 PM
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Especially online, aggressive play is what wins. Passive play (slowplaying) will be a huge hit to the bankroll. I'll lose value or I'll lose the hand.... either way, I lose.

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