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promotions - Sun May 19, 2013, 05:09 PM
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Want to take part in the bankbuilder promotion
 
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Sun May 19, 2013, 05:59 PM
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Want to take part in the bankbuilder promotion
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

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Mon May 20, 2013, 12:04 PM
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Hello lordtunderri,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Test run - Mon May 20, 2013, 04:59 PM
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Followed the tutorial to start getting used to using this feature. Also I have already completed the basic course

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Now I think I got it figured out. Much better example - Mon May 20, 2013, 05:21 PM
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Pocket Kings in the blind. flop a set raise turn a quad raise call all in. Could I have extracted more value slow playing it?

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this you gotta see - Mon May 20, 2013, 05:51 PM
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A set of aces off the flop. watch what they do with them
 
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Tue May 21, 2013, 05:57 AM
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Thanks for posting the hand, we'll have the hand analysis done shortly. Then I'll give you your first bonus followed by your next steps
 
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Tue May 21, 2013, 11:50 AM
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Hi lordtunderri! I'll take a look at these two hands.

1. With KK in the SB, facing 4 limps, the last thing I want to do is just complete the small blind. If this pot goes multiway, your kings have a higher chance of being beaten. You should be raising for value and to try and reduce the competition. A standard raise is 3bb +1bb per limper. In this case it would be 3bb + 4bb = 7bb = 140 chips. Since you'll be in the worst position post-flop (acting first) you want to gain the initiative by raising.
As played, you just completed, so you see the flop 6-handed. Fortunately, you made top set, so you usually have the best hand, but with so many villains, it's possible someone flopped a flush. I definitely agree with betting out. You have a strong hand, but you don't want multiple players with draws to see if they can suck out cheaply. A bet of close to pot is ideal. 80 into 120 is a little small, but it gets the job done, as there are only two callers. I'd be quite worried one of these guys has you beat with a flush, so you probably need to make a full house. On the turn, you go one better and hit quads. You have the nuts now and the villains are drawing dead, unless they have precisely QsTs, QsJs, or JsTs that have 1 out to a straight flush. Betting for value again is great (I don't recommend slow-playing, especially multiway) as a villain with a flush will put you on trips. You went for full pot this time, when just under pot would be more standard. You want to make it look like flush draws still have outs. One villain folds, and the other raises. This is great for you, because he can't be in the lead. Obviously, you want to go all in here, as villain has committed himself to calling. He flips over 66, which is a shocking hand. He was almost drawing dead on the flop (needing runner runner quads or a spade for a weak flush) so he was only beating a total bluff. You clearly couldn't have made any more money here by slowplaying. You managed to win a stack from someone who over-valued their own hand.

2. You checked this one down because you didn't have a hand post-flop. The winner didn't flop a set of aces. He turned trips with a queen kicker. To hit a set, you need a pocket pair. I'm not sure why villain slowplayed his hand. I would have bet the flop with top pair, and the turn with trips. He may have been worried about a straight, but he should have bet to stop someone making it for free. Checking the river indicates he was worried about flushes too. No one sucked out this time, but slowplaying can lead to problems like that, which is why I always recommend raising pre-flop with strong hands and betting when I hit the board.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Tue May 21, 2013, 06:21 PM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

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Cash game - Wed May 22, 2013, 07:25 PM
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Just an example
 
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This one I have questions about - Wed May 22, 2013, 07:31 PM
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Thought on pushing all-in with AK. Even a big reraise. Didn't feel right about putting it all in given how often suckouts and badbeats occur on this site.
 
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3 reasons - Wed May 22, 2013, 07:43 PM
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1. To protect against strong draws.
2. To put a lot of pressure on other players
3. To bluff players off hands


PS Already completed the cash game quiz
 
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Thu May 23, 2013, 05:29 AM
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Great thanks for posting the hands, we'll provide the analysis here soon followed by your next steps
 
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Thu May 23, 2013, 06:27 AM
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Just an example
Hi lordtunderri!

This is an important hand to review! This is an instance where you made serious mistakes on every street but won the hand. Make sure you do not confuse the winning results here with profitable disicion making. I don't mean to be harsh, but we often assume we played well in the hands we won. Let's take a closer look.

You are holding and facing a sb raise. This hand is too weak to play in any situation. I strongly recommend folding. You need to ask yourself what are you hoping to flop? There is not much that will look good for your hand. Your cards are not suited, so a flush is unlikely. They are not connected so a straight is unlikely. And they are not high cards, so flopping top pair is unlikely. Even if you "know" the villain is stealing, calling is not good.

I do not recommend bluffing with air. However, if you had a read on the villain and were going to bluff, then do so preflop by reraising and taking the pot down there and then? Every card that comes on the board will presumably increase your risk and lower your chances for success.

As played, you missed the flop and passively called. Notice there are two overcards, a flush draw and a straight draw possible. This is not a board to be calling on. The turn makes this situation more precarious and the river makes it even worse. I strongly suggest folding on the flop and avoiding these situations. It will only cost you money in the long run.

On the river you make a 6bb raise. Yes, you won the pot, but it was a huge risk since any and all hands that the villain may call with are crushing your hand. This is a very expensive bluff that will fail more often than it wins, especially at 2NL.

I strongly urge you to stick to the fundamentals and playable starting hands. The best way to crush 2NL is to value bet your strong made hands and fold your weak ones.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Thu May 23, 2013, 06:39 AM
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Thought on pushing all-in with AK. Even a big reraise. Didn't feel right about putting it all in given how often suckouts and badbeats occur on this site.
Hi again lordtunderri!

is a strong starting hand. I would suggest raising preflop here. A standard 3-bet is 3x the original raise + 1x for each caller. So, make it 16 cents. This raise is for value and to limit the number of opponents in the hand. Calling as you did gives a lot of hands you are beat a free chance to out flop you. Passive play is often why suckouts occur.

Moving all in is not good since all the hands you are beating will fold. You will most likely end up in a race against a pocket pair.

Note: Suckout and badbeats do not occur more often here. Try focusing on improving your game. Focusing on elements you can't control and that are untrue to boot will just hurt your game.

As played, folding is fine without a read. Calling and reevaluting on the turn would have been fine too.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Thu May 23, 2013, 09:28 AM
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Hello lordtunderri,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.


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