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Where did I go wrong? - Sun May 26, 2013, 10:05 PM
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Hello! What should I have done here? Do you think I should have called? Or should I have played it differently from the start? And they were playing 18/10 over 50ish hands if that changes anything..

Thanks!
 
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Sun May 26, 2013, 11:54 PM
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I'd three bet more. A typical 3-bet is 3x openers raise if no one followed. So 3-bet to 375 to 425.

With a flush draw on the flop against an opponent without a good read I prefer bet 2/3 pot or more. I'd go with 500 - 550.

The river is a tough spot when you don't know how your opponent plays post-flop. AJd is in their pre-flop range. I'd have to work out some combinations and run them through propokertools equity calculator which handles ranges in specific suits. but betting more pre- and post-flop might have kept you out of this tight spot.
 
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Sun May 26, 2013, 11:59 PM
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Mon May 27, 2013, 02:56 AM
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I agree with Trumpin, bet more and jam the turn, so he must pay for drawing to flush or straight. I think you made correct fold, dont know what stakes are those, but i dont think villain with those stats would make big river bluff there.
 
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Mon May 27, 2013, 08:54 AM
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I can't see my self folding there and I think bet sizing is fine. On a double paired board I don't think flush would push. He's got TX, very rarely 33 ,or nothing better than KK. after I invested half of my stack I'm already pot committed , I couldn't fold there.
 
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Mon May 27, 2013, 02:28 PM
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Ah thanks! Yeah I see what you mean, if i were to 3 bet more, and make a larger bet on the flop I would have a pot sized bet behind and could shove.
 
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Mon May 27, 2013, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Proey64 View Post
Ah thanks! Yeah I see what you mean, if i were to 3 bet more, and make a larger bet on the flop I would have a pot sized bet behind and could shove.
Yup.

I find that betting too small costs me more than betting too much.

Good decisions!
 
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Mon May 27, 2013, 03:51 PM
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It's not about costs you need to get value from your hand
 
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Mon May 27, 2013, 04:08 PM
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You've got half of it down. The other have is minimize losses, or chips saved count the same as chips won.
 
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Tue May 28, 2013, 08:52 AM
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Hi Proey64

I think you played hand brilliantly. The only thing I could suggest would be to 3bet slightly bigger but as we have position I don't mind the smaller 3bet.

Your bet sizing post flop is perfect, what you did 'intentionally or not I don't know', but what you did is you set up a nice amount of chips to shove all in on the river. There is 3000 chips in the middle and you have 1500 behind which is a great amount to shove and we will often get called by worse.

Unfortunately the board pairs and villain jams!!! Now I do think that there are a good amount of bluffs in his range but I'm still going to fold, he can have some 10x hands and every now and then e can turn up with a flush. When we fold we still have 25 big blinds which is a stack we can work with.

Well played. Chris.

Last edited by ChewMe1; Tue May 28, 2013 at 09:21 AM..
 

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