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[JK] Bankroll Builder - Tue May 28, 2013, 09:07 PM
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Hi I just joined and would like to be part of this promotion
 
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Hello skippycamper,

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Wed May 29, 2013, 05:08 PM
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Just looking for some insight into this hand; preflop call, bet size after the flop, checking on the river and what if someone had bet big on the river?

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Wed May 29, 2013, 07:15 PM
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Hi skippycamper!

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Preflop, with QT from the BB with 2 limps and a raise in front of me, I'm either going to 3-bet to 120 (3X the previous bet) or fold and the overwhelming majority of the time, I'm mucking. QT is too marginal of a hand to be playing when out of postion.

If I was in the hand (which I would not be), I flop top pair and a gutshot draw, but I can very easily not have the best hand here. If I was sure that I had the best hand, then I would need to make a 3/4 pot (120 chip) value bet. I do not want to bet less than this, as someone with an open-ended straight draw can then be getting the correct odds to outdraw me. I also can very easily be beat by an opp with KT or AT here, so I could also check here, especially if any of the opps have shown any aggression.

The turn is a total blank and I'm going to check here. A standard value bet would be 2/3 pot with 2 opps and I would not want to bet more or less than it. Players that bet more with better hands and less with marginal hands are basically turning their cards face-up to an observant opponent... something that I do not want to do.

The river is another blank and with an opp that called my flop bet, I can very easily be behind, so since my hand does have showdown value, I will check and hope to get to showdown without putting another chip into the pot.

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Wed May 29, 2013, 07:48 PM
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nice, thanks for the answer.
I did the quiz at the end and got 82%

i have to do the full ring though, i clearly missed that
 
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Wed May 29, 2013, 07:56 PM
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Brilliant skippycamper!

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Wed May 29, 2013, 08:45 PM
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ignore this

Last edited by skippycamper; Wed May 29, 2013 at 08:46 PM.. Reason: wrote wrong comment
 
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Wed May 29, 2013, 09:06 PM
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oh boy feel free to tell me how bad I played this.
I thought he wouldnt flat with AQ, I figured he had a smaller ace.
But then after the hand I realized even if he did I was playing to chop the pot at best.
I know I played this bad but I need a proper analysis.

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Thu May 30, 2013, 04:04 AM
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oh boy feel free to tell me how bad I played this.
I thought he wouldnt flat with AQ, I figured he had a smaller ace.
But then after the hand I realized even if he did I was playing to chop the pot at best.
I know I played this bad but I need a proper analysis.

thanks
Hi skippycamper!

Opening with is fine from early mid-position and your 3x raise is sized well. Both blnds call. You are going to have position on them which is great, but did you have any reads on either player? Btw: flatting with AQo in the sb is probably the best route. From his perspective, your range is fairly small A10s+, 77+. Rather than building a pot oop, he opts for pot control.

You flop top pair, uncertain kicker; however, you also got a decent flush draw and possible straight draw. This monotone board will look pretty scary to anyone who doesn't have a heart. Plus, the A and Q are both cards in the villains' ranges. This is a good spot to c-bet as you did, and I like your bet size. Good job!

The sb min-raises you. Now is when a read is critical! Some players do this as a complete bluff, others do this with the nuts, and some do it with a strong draw. Knowing how to interpret the action here should be based on how you have seen the villain play earlier hands. Your hand is good, but not great. You do not have top kicker, nor are you drawing to the nut flush. But you do have showdown value and position. Calling as you did is fine, but we need to be careful and re-evaluate on the turn.

The board pairs on the turn and the villain leads with a 50% pot bet. This looks strong. Without a read I would actually fold here for two reasones. Firstly, none of your potential outs will give you the nuts. Even if the K of hearts comes, you may be beaten by a full house or quads. If any other heart comes, you may also beaten by a better flush and so on. Secondly, the villain seems to like his hand. He raised the flop, and lead on the turn. It seems likely that you will be facing another expensive bet on the river. The only hands you are beating are bluffs or overplayed AX or pocket pairs, none of which seem likely with all the action that has taken place thus far and no read to support it either.

This is a tricky spot to identify, but folding on the turn would be best.

Luckily the villain checked down the river. Good job not overplaying your hand and betting! That would have gotten you value owned. Only hands beating you would call which would have cost you more money. Most of the hands you are beating would fold, meaning it is unlikely you could win move value on the river in spots where you are ahead.

You didn't play this hand badly, except for your turn call and that wasn't that obvious. Moreover, you realized yourself after the fact that this was a bad spot. I think you should be happy, tbh! You are learning. Now that you are recognizing dangerous spots like this, you just need to incorporate it into your game. This becomes easier the more experience you gain.

I suggest you start working on note taking, especially the opponents nearest you. Are they playing a lot of hands (tight/loose), are the usually betting or calling (passive/aggressive) and look at the showdown hands. You can then replay the hand and see how the opponent handled a situation. For example, did they limp AA, did the slowplay a monster, did the overplay a marginal hand, bluff a lot etc etc. All this stuff will let you start to put a villain on a range of hands.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 

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