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mini bankroll - Fri Jun 07, 2013, 07:23 AM
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ive just deposit my 1st 1,000php ($24)to pokerstars.com., i know its just a little., but i almost double it up to $45 in just few days., my next target is to double it up again., hope you can give me some tip to my little bankroll.,
 
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Fri Jun 07, 2013, 07:35 AM
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Fri Jun 07, 2013, 08:54 AM
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Will welcome you to the site and congratulations on your initial double-up. The video is a good start, but I have a feeling you want something more direct. So here's a few tips I've garnered from reading these forums.




1 --- Find the game you like. I'm not just talking a poker games such as Omaha, Stud, or Holdem; I also mean the type of game, such as STT, SNG, ring, or MTT.

2 --- Stay within your budget. It is easy to push yourself into a battle at a higher cost level where your mind is more focused on the money than the play.

3 --- Know thyself. No philosophy lesson, something more practical. Play when your mind can focus on the game without the usual real life distractions. Online play is far more taxing than live since the speed is sometimes double what you encounter. Be mentally and physically ready to play.

4 --- Make friends with a clock. What I mean is have a predetermined end time. It can either be a certain number of games, or a set playing time. When you hit that limit, leave. Adjust with experience, but don't push it when you are losing or winning. Reason? See Item 5

5 --- Change is inevitable. Winning streaks end and losing streaks will break. Usually the first happens when you are desperate for just one more success and the other seems to last forever. Be ready for both and know they are a normal part of the game.

6 --- Keep learning by reading the forum, watching a few training videos, watching a few games without playing, testing a new style in play chips, or a poker book. None of us knows everything, so keep an open mind.

7 --- Get some help. You'll find there is a lot of companion software on the market, such as Holdem Manager, Poker Tracker, and the Indicator series out there that can offer you clues to where your game is weak. Many offer free trials, avail yourself of them.

8 --- This is most important, have fun playing. When the game becomes a job, take a step back, stop playing for a few days, find another distraction. Unless you intend making this a full-time enterprise, too much online poker can burn you out and leave you wondering why you even started. If playing ever stops being fun, consider why you play and decide which is better, poker or real life. Personally, real life is always the better choice.
 
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Fri Jun 07, 2013, 12:29 PM
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Hi kimj16! What game are you currently playing - cash games or tournaments? Bankroll management is very important, because you can lose money just as quickly as you can make it if you have a run of bad luck.


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Fri Jun 07, 2013, 01:32 PM
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Hi Kim,

Check out this tutorial on Bankroll Management. There is plenty of good information in the PSO Poker Courses to accelerate your poker education.

Good luck at the tables.


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bankroll - Sun Jun 09, 2013, 10:02 AM
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Just be careful variance can be hard on a bankroll.


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6 max - Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:20 PM
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@artysmokesps

sir im playing my no limit hold em at full ring table.., because thats my game in live poker before i start to play at online poker.., we also play single table sit and go sometimes., so i also try it online.,

but i find it kinda difficult to adjust in online game when i started multi tabling., so i decided to take a break and relax., then ive change my game now..,

now im playing on a 6 max no limit hold em.., i think i find my play in here., 6 max.,

Last edited by kimj16; Thu Jun 20, 2013 at 01:24 PM..
 
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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by holdupman48 View Post
Just be careful variance can be hard on a bankroll.
sir what do you mean by variance??
 
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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairn Destop View Post
Will welcome you to the site and congratulations on your initial double-up. The video is a good start, but I have a feeling you want something more direct. So here's a few tips I've garnered from reading these forums.




1 --- Find the game you like. I'm not just talking a poker games such as Omaha, Stud, or Holdem; I also mean the type of game, such as STT, SNG, ring, or MTT.

2 --- Stay within your budget. It is easy to push yourself into a battle at a higher cost level where your mind is more focused on the money than the play.

3 --- Know thyself. No philosophy lesson, something more practical. Play when your mind can focus on the game without the usual real life distractions. Online play is far more taxing than live since the speed is sometimes double what you encounter. Be mentally and physically ready to play.

4 --- Make friends with a clock. What I mean is have a predetermined end time. It can either be a certain number of games, or a set playing time. When you hit that limit, leave. Adjust with experience, but don't push it when you are losing or winning. Reason? See Item 5

5 --- Change is inevitable. Winning streaks end and losing streaks will break. Usually the first happens when you are desperate for just one more success and the other seems to last forever. Be ready for both and know they are a normal part of the game.

6 --- Keep learning by reading the forum, watching a few training videos, watching a few games without playing, testing a new style in play chips, or a poker book. None of us knows everything, so keep an open mind.

7 --- Get some help. You'll find there is a lot of companion software on the market, such as Holdem Manager, Poker Tracker, and the Indicator series out there that can offer you clues to where your game is weak. Many offer free trials, avail yourself of them.

8 --- This is most important, have fun playing. When the game becomes a job, take a step back, stop playing for a few days, find another distraction. Unless you intend making this a full-time enterprise, too much online poker can burn you out and leave you wondering why you even started. If playing ever stops being fun, consider why you play and decide which is better, poker or real life. Personally, real life is always the better choice.
thank you sir., specially in tips #8..,
just like to quote this one motto i learn in an indian movie.., i think its 1 of the reason i play online poker.,

"make your passion your profession., and work will become play"..,

thats why., i will guarantee you sir., im definitely having fun right now., tnx so much for the tips..,
 
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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:31 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline. Here's a short video about PSO and what it has to offer you. Also check out >>This Page<< for more info.



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tnx for this video.., im proud to be a part of your poker school sir.,
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:58 PM
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Hey, I am real rookie on poker but this tip has helped me improve my game and that way bankroll too. Find stakes and game you are comfortable with. This way you focus on game improving you skills and not staring at bubble and try make it to the money. When you are comfortable and dont need to think how much this game looses to you then you get best benefits. Also join PSO leagues and any promotion where these guys from PSO play. They help you so so so much.


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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:13 PM
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I wanted to know what stakes you are playing, because variance (how lucky/unlucky you get) can quickly make you busto if you're not careful. With $50 or so, I'd recommend you stick to 2NL cashgames (1c/2c blinds) and 25c SnGs. If you risk more than 5% of your roll on one table, and you do it a few times, you can quickly go broke just due to random luck.


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variance - Fri Jun 28, 2013, 12:00 PM
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yes sir., im playing in the 1c-2c game., ive just currently move to 2c-5c after i triple up my bankroll..,
 
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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:59 PM
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I had been building a bankroll slowly by playing the 2/5c cash games full ring. I had made an extra deposit of 20 dollars to have a shot at the 5/10c tables. I have to admit I felt uncomfortable as the total bank roll was only 120dollars. So I lost two buy ins pretty fast and had the sense to notice I was playing very bad and quit. I Was not mentally focused on good poker decisions and was more concerned about the money I had in play. This led me to play worse and some of the choices I made were just terrible, worst poker I have ever played.

I am now dropping back to 2/5c until I build up to around 200-240dollars and then I will have 3 or 4 buy ins set aside for the 5/10 tables. Bankroll is more of a psychological thing I believe. It was clear I was playing above my bankroll and was nervous about decisions and made some terrible plays and calls.
 
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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:52 PM
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:20 AM
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can anyone help me in my 'poker math' problem..,

i know the basic rules of
-counting outs
-calculating pot odds
-rules of 2 & 4
and
-implied pot odds

but there's one thing confusing my game., maybe its cover by the rules of 4 & 2., the example situation is like in this photo.,



scenario:
pot is $10., i missed the flop with flush draw., and villains bets., $5.,
in rules of 4 & 2., i will multiply my 9 outs to 4., and will give me 36% chance of winning., and it means that it is reasonable to call $5 to win a $15 pot., 3:1 ratio., for my outs of 2:1., (pls correct me if im wrong)

the question is.,
what will i do if i know the villain will bet once again in the turn?

will i multiply my outs in flop by 2 only, rather than 4 because im only buying the turn card?
or will i call to the flop bet because of right pot odds then compute another pot odds on his turn bet?
or should i fold to avoid his over pot size bet on the turn?

simplified: am i getting the right pot odds to call even i know the villain will bet again at the turn?
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 11:49 AM
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You can call on the flop because you have 9 outs to the nuts, and your ace might also be good too. On the turn, you should multiply your outs by 2, giving you about an 18% chance of hitting the flush on the river. If villain bets more than half pot on the turn, I would generally give up.
One of the things that pot odds doesn't account for is implied odds. These refer to additional money you may win that's not yet in the pot, but villain will put in even when the flush draw gets there. You can only estimate the implied odds, but when stacks are deep you can include them. e.g. on the turn, the pot might lay immediate odds of 3:1, but the implied odds might be closer to 4:1 or 5:1, because you expect to get paid off when you hit.
Since calculating implied odds is tricky, I generally just look at the size of the bet and go from there. i.e. On the flop, I'll call anything up to pot-size with a flush draw, but if the turn is a blank, then I'll give up if villain bets more than about 60% of pot.

As it happens, just calling down with draws is not very profitable. It's far better to raise the flop as a semi-bluff when you have a strong draw. Sometimes villain will fold immediately (so you win with ace high), and other times you can follow your flop raise with a turn bet that puts villain under great pressure. The other benefit of raising with a draw is that if you're lucky enough to hit it, you'll be winning a bigger pot.


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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 02:55 PM
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wow., sir artysmoke your awesome., thumbs up for you., and thanks for your answer., ill post another question about the poker later., hope you'll response again., thanks again for your help., much appreciated.,
 
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Thu Jul 18, 2013, 10:21 PM
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sir is c-betting profitable?
i'm a tight player when choosing hole card., and wanted to be aggresive playing my chosen cards.,
but when i missed the flop and villain checks i've always make a c-bet to make them fold.., but if they call., i'll make another c-bet on turn.,

it always work for me because of my tight image.,
but is it profitable because they are folding on my high cards? or not because im committing my self to the pot everytime i missed til the river?

can you please teach me when/how to use proper c-betting.,

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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:08 AM
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Just use good br management and you will be fine then work on your game
 

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