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[JK] bankroll builder - Sun Jun 09, 2013, 11:32 AM
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Hi,

i want to take part in the Bankroll Builder promotion.TY.
 
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Sun Jun 09, 2013, 12:05 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Sun Jun 09, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Hello azus31,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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my full house:-) - Sun Jun 09, 2013, 04:29 PM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

What do u think about my hand...i think it was good. Did i can earn more profit? Any mistakes?


I think thats all, i watched the video getting started, i posted the play money hand and pass the poker basic course.
 
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Sun Jun 09, 2013, 08:04 PM
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Hi azus31!

With J4o from the SB, I get 3 limps in front of me. Due to my hand being so bad, plus the fact that I'm out of position, which is a HUGE disadvantage, I need to muck this preflop. Playing too many hands from the SB just becuaes I have chips in the pot already is one of the largest leaks that a player can have, that will cost them a great number of chips over time. I want to be playing the smallest % of hands from the SB than from any other position at the table. The way to look at it is that if the hand is not strong enough to make a standard raise with (3BB+1BB for each limper), then the hand is not strong enough to play and needs to be mucked.

If I saw the flop (which would never happen with a hand this bad), then when I flop trip 4's, I need to make a standard value bet and with 4 opps in the hand, this is a pot-sized bet. Due to this, I will bet 10 chips. I want to make all of my bets standard, so that the opps are continually guessing as to the cards that I'm playing. Players that bet more or less due to their hand strength are basically turning their cards face-up to an observant opp... something that I want to avoid doing.

The turn puts a flush draw out there and with 2 opps now, I once again need to make a standard value bet, which for 2 opps is 2/3 pot, so I will bet 39 chips. I do not want to bet more nor less than this, especially less, as I can be giving an opp with a club draw the correct odds to try to outdraw me. If I do so and the opp hits the flush on the river, it's my own fault that I lose the hand.

The river gives me a full house and here the question is, how much will the opp call? I don't want to bet too much and lose value for my hand. With 1 opp, my standard value bet is 1/2 pot, so I will make that my bet here.

The keys here are first, to muck trash hands preflop, and secondly, to make standard bets.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Sun Jun 09, 2013, 08:07 PM
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Brilliant azus31!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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unlucky me or??? - Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:30 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

I think that the no luck on that hand.

The 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet:

To put a lot a pressure on opponents.
To protect against strong draws.
To gain value from very strong hands.

I finished the cash game quiz.

What next to do
 
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Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:39 PM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

I think that the no luck on that hand.

The 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet:

To put a lot a pressure on opponents.
To protect against strong draws.
To gain value from very strong hands.

I finished the cash game quiz.

What next to do
Hi azus31!

This situation is pretty rare at a cash game. It more resembles tournament play! Villains 3,4,5 and yourself are all very short stacked for a cash table. Normally, with so many limpers, I would suggest calling preflop hoping to set mine. Then if you flop a set, bet/raise. If you don't then just fold. Here you could still follow this line, but I would be happier just moving all in. This gives you maximum fold equity and will hopefully limit the number of opponents that see the flop.

As played, a standard preflop raise would be 3bb plu 1bb for each limper. So make it 12 cents. Betting small to 8 cents as you did hurts you more than it helps. It bloats the pot, but is not enough to get many folds. The problem with betting the standard 12 cents is that it is basically half your stack. Rather than risk a bad flop and having to fold. Moving all in as stated above is the best. Even if everyone folds, just winning the pot preflop will be significant for you.

Notice the 52 guy probably would have folded preflop had you moved all in.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:26 PM
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Hello azus31,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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2nd bonus - Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:33 AM
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hi,

I lost all my money and i didnt go to 10 vpp, but because i had a few extra $ i play on other tables, not only at $0.01-0.02.

so what now?????
 
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Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:19 PM
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hi,

I lost all my money and i didnt go to 10 vpp, but because i had a few extra $ i play on other tables, not only at $0.01-0.02.

so what now?????
Hey there,

Please post the hand(s) where you lost the money with using the hand replayer. Once we analyse your hand we can continue on from there.

We cannot award you any more bonuses until you post the hand(s) where you lost your last bonus.

Cheers,

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lost hands - Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:03 PM
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Wed Jun 12, 2013, 10:32 PM
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Hi azus31,

For you to receive the bonus and continue with the Bankroll builder promotion, you need to be playing 1x/2c cashgames only and to post the hands where you lost your money. The hands above are tournament hands, but they are easy enough for me to analyse, so I'll take a look at them.

1. This must be at the start of a tournament, because everyone has 1500 chips. With A8o, you should be folding pre-flop, because this is not a particularly strong hand and you'll be out of position if you see a flop. If the hand was good enough to play in this situation, then the standard open would be 3bb, or 60 chips. Instead, you decided to open-shove your entire stack. This is a terrible play! When you make a huge bet like this, you're likely to only get action from hands that are beating you. That's exactly what happens here. Two players call off their stacks with relatively bad hands, but a villain wakes up with pocket kings, so he calls, knowing he's always going to be the favourite, unless someone has AA. The board runs out and it's actually AT that wins by making a straight, but AT, A8 and Q9 are not strong enough to go all in with until stacks are much smaller.

2. You have another trash hand here: J8 offsuit. There are a couple of limps before you act. If you had the suited version of this hand, then calling might be profitable sometimes, but I'd mostly just fold. As played, you over-limp, there's another caller, and then the button shoves all in. You can't possibly be a favourite if you call here, because villains won't be going all in with hands like J7 or T8. You're crushed by AK here, so immediately bust out of the tournament.

To win at poker, you need to make calculated decisions, not random gambles with trash hands. With hands like J8 and A8, you should nearly always be folding pre-flop. Exercise some patience and wait for a playable hand before putting money in the pot, and be more inclined to use standard bet sizes, like 3bb for a raise.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:32 AM
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hi,

I lost all my money and i didnt go to 10 vpp, but because i had a few extra $ i play on other tables, not only at $0.01-0.02.

so what now?????
Hey there,

Those hands you posted were Tournament hands?

Can you please post the Cash Game hand(s) where you lost the money with using the hand replayer. Remember that the Bankroll Builder is a Cash Game promotion only Tournament hands do not count for this promotion.

Once we analyse your hand we can continue on from there.

We cannot award you any more bonuses until you post the hand(s) where you lost your last bonus.

Cheers,

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grrrrrrrrr hands - Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:45 PM
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Is that ok????? please further instructions....

Last edited by azus31; Thu Jun 13, 2013 at 02:49 PM..
 
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Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:05 PM
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hi,

I lost all my money and i didnt go to 10 vpp, but because i had a few extra $ i play on other tables, not only at $0.01-0.02.

so what now?????
Hey there,

These are 6-max hands that you played today?

For this promotion please ONLY PLAY fullring 9-handed NHLE games as requested above. It's very important you follow the instructions carefully.

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