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$3.5 45man - 3 bet shoving vs BTN, with <20BB

$3.5 45man - 3 bet shoving vs BTN, with <20BB - Wed Jun 12, 2013, 09:44 AM
Shyko's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 4
Hi All,

This is a hand from a $3.5 45 man where I came 2nd, I intend to post key hands which I would like some clarification on and the ones that I played badly for your review.

This is the first highly significant hand.

Would like your opinion on this spot in general, 3 bet shoving ranges. Villian stats are 12/9 , steal 15%. Should I over think his stats or is it profitable to 3 bet shove here and scoop the dead money with a decent range of hands e.g. 77+, AJ+, KT+ and QJ ?

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MP2: 1,465 (9.8 bb)
MP3: 2,670 (17.8 bb)
CO: 1,475 (9.8 bb)
BTN: 3,540 (23.6 bb)
Hero (SB): 2,095 (14 bb)
BB: 2,753 (18.4 bb)
MP1: 1,092 (7.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J Q
4 folds, BTN raises to 307, Hero raises to 2,095 and is all-in, BB folds, BTN calls 1,788

Flop: (4,340) 4 3 Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (4,340) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (4,340) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:08 AM
Shichi-77's Avatar
Since: Jul 2012
Posts: 607
I don't shove QJ here with 14bb , only 2-3 bb's . To shove I need more info, if his LPS is about 65% I might shove but only counting on FE but anyway it's not a good game for me. and it's to early to re steal so wide, there's no ante even

Last edited by Shichi-77; Wed Jun 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM..
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 09:40 PM
ahar010's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 614
Hi Shyko,

I don't think this is a good spot for a 3bet.

12/9 and steal of 15% is really quite tight. His opening range even in the SB is pretty strong.

I think QJo actually blocks some of the range that he might fold rather blocking the range he calls with.

We would be better off targetting a tight player with a really wide steal (30%+).

I probably wouldn't defend by calling here either, because I think a tight players range has you dominated alot also.


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