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newbie flops str8 flush draw v rvr nut flush - Fri Jun 14, 2013, 12:47 PM
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Hi Gang, Just running out the door so I couldnt figure the hand analyser out atm! I'll look 2moro using the thread when i'll have more time. Any thoughts on this hand please? It was early, everyone was tight, only limpers for the 1st 12 hands. I had tagged the villain as TAG (doh). The villain played it great imo! I was very keen to start betting either to steal the pots or encourage the table too loosen up. TY, Zix PokerStars Hand #100034009346: Tournament #746916860, $0.45+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2013/06/14 16:05:59 WET [2013/06/14 11:05:59 ET]
Table '746916860 3' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Alexey198804 (1895 in chips)
Seat 3: Beytef (1470 in chips)
Seat 4: Pistloe45 (1580 in chips)
Seat 5: Stepovsek (1460 in chips)
Seat 6: yokes99 (1400 in chips)
Seat 7: brucelee2325 (1465 in chips)
Seat 8: ruimartins53 (2780 in chips)
Seat 9: Zix9 (1450 in chips)
Zix9: posts small blind 15
Alexey198804: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Zix9 [7s 5s]
Beytef: folds
Pistloe45: folds
Stepovsek: folds
yokes99: folds
brucelee2325: folds
ruimartins53: folds
Zix9: calls 15
Alexey198804: raises 30 to 60
Zix9: calls 30
*** FLOP *** [8s Kc 4s]
Zix9: bets 90
Alexey198804: raises 90 to 180
Zix9: calls 90
*** TURN *** [8s Kc 4s] [7h]
Zix9: checks
Alexey198804: bets 150
Zix9: calls 150
*** RIVER *** [8s Kc 4s 7h] [Js]
Zix9: checks
Alexey198804: bets 270
Zix9: raises 450 to 720
Alexey198804: raises 785 to 1505 and is all-in
Zix9: calls 340 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (445) returned to Alexey198804
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Alexey198804: shows [3s As] (a flush, Ace high)
Zix9: shows [7s 5s] (a flush, Jack high)
Alexey198804 collected 2900 from pot
Zix9 finished the tournament in 40th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2900 | Rake 0
Board [8s Kc 4s 7h Js]
Seat 2: Alexey198804 (big blind) showed [3s As] and won (2900) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: Beytef folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Pistloe45 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Stepovsek folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: yokes99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: brucelee2325 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ruimartins53 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Zix9 (small blind) showed [7s 5s] and lost with a flush, Jack high
 
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Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:28 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
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Hi Zix9,

Preflop you should probably just fold this hand. If you want to play it you should do so for a raise. You might take down the pot right away or you'll gain initiative in the hand and be able to realistically bet on later streets as a semi-bluff as you did and get more respect.

The bet on the flop is ok, as you can increase the pot for when you hit a flush or straight and get enough un-improved hands to fold. We also have odds to call the min reraise also.

At this point I would slow down as you have. The pot on the turn is 480 and the bet is only 150. Again I think we are getting an ok price if we consider pot odds. We've also paired which means another 7 or a 5 may also give us the best hand.

I think I would bet the river since the oppositions bets on flop and turn have been small, their hand looks weak, so unlikely to bet themselves with a worse hand. If they do bet it's likely to be small again.
The pot on the river is 780 so I would bet pretty small to allow their weak K to call but more than we expect them to bet themselves. So maybe 390-420.

We'd have a difficult decision at this point when they shove. Obviously we're thinking bigger flushes and sets are now in the villains range. 1060 to call into a pot of 2900. I think they'd be more flushes than sets given the continued small bet on the turn, we might get away here.

I think just as likely as a shove here if we lead the river the villain will click it back like they did on the flop and we can just flat call and save ourselves some chips.

When you check raise the river like this, there really aren't that many worse hands that can pay you and when they give you action you could well be beat.

Andy




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Last edited by ahar010; Fri Jun 14, 2013 at 08:31 PM..
 
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Fri Jun 14, 2013, 10:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahar010 View Post
Hi Zix9,
I think I would bet the river since the oppositions bets on flop and turn have been small, their hand looks weak, so unlikely to bet themselves with a worse hand. If they do bet it's likely to be small again.
The pot on the river is 780 so I would bet pretty small to allow their weak K to call but more than we expect them to bet themselves. So maybe 390-420.
Andy
Thanks for that Andy, I didn't consider the flush at all, hence the shove. So many mistakes in the cold light of the hand analyser. Thanks again, Z
 
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TEST - Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:39 AM
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TEST - Sun Jun 16, 2013, 09:57 AM
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Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:55 PM
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Hey Zix9, it seems like you're having some issures. In order to post a replay, on the hand replayer page: Mark a hand and click the link button (Link builder) in the top right. Copy the code and paste in a forum post.


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