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bankroll builder - Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:00 AM
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i would like to participate in bankroll builder
 
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Mon Jun 17, 2013, 10:39 AM
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i would like to participate in bankroll builder
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Mon Jun 17, 2013, 06:39 PM
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Hi sicilianu.ax,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 08:30 AM
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all done

next please
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:45 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:17 AM
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Hi sicilianu.ax!

With A3s from the SB, if I think that any of the opps would fold to a raise, I'm going to make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper, which would be a raise to 60 due to the 3 limps. If all of the opps are calling stations, then I'll just complete and hope to see a cheap flop.

The flop totally misses me and has a pair. With 4 opps in the hand, I can easily be behind here, so I'm going to check and hope to see a free turn card. If any of the opps bets, then I'm mucking.

The turn gives me a flush draw, but I still have absolutely nothing. Due to this, I will check and hope to get a free river card. I don't want to bet here, as post-flop bets need to be based on the size of the pot, number of opps and board texture and with 4 opps, I would need to make a pot-sized bet... which I do not want to do with nothing but a draw. If any of the opps makes a sizable bet, then I will need to muck.

One of the opps now raises to 50 and I need to see if it's worth it to call. I need to put 30 chips into a pot that will be 190 (15.8%). From the rule of 4 and 2, my nine outs to the flush have 18% equity. Since my hand equity is worth more than my pot-equity, I will call this raise.

The river gives me the flush, but with a paired board, I still need to be worried that an opp could have a full house, especially the opp that raised the turn.
With 3 opps in the pot still, my standard value bet is 3/4 pot, so I will bet 188 chips. The opp that raised the turn now clicks back and min-raises me. While I do have showdown value with the flush, there are hands out there that can beat me, so I will call here and go to showdown.
I only want to shove the river here, IF, I know that I have the best hand and the way this hand played out, I could be behind a full house, so I do not want to unnecessarily risk my entire stack.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:21 AM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 12:28 PM
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to put pressure on opponent
to bluff
to protect against strong draws





all done next please
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 08:15 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:35 AM
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to put pressure on opponent
to bluff
to protect against strong draws





all done next please
Hi sicilianu.ax!

Before we look at the hand, I noticed that you paid the big blind out of turn. Never do this! It may seem cheap to pay 1 bb, but these add up fast and we normally get bad cards that must be folded. This is a sure fire way to lose money. I strongly urge you to check the "Wait for Big Blind" button. Use the time to study your opponents and start building your notes/reads.

Preflop is difficult in this spot. We would like to see a flop with 99, but there are several players left to act, including the origianl limper. If he raises, we should fold. If we had a read on him indicating that he was passive, then we can consider calling. Secondly, notice that the raiser, and V3 have smallish stacks. This reduces our implied odds since we can't win that much from them even if we get all in. Folding is probably best here, but calling as you did is fine.

The flop has two overcards, which is not good for your pair. You do have a gutshot straight draw plus any nine giving you 6 potential outs. V6 makes a very small c-bet and you have implied odds to call this, but we need to be careful since there are two other players left to act.

When V6 raises to 32 things are starting to get expensive. You are getting slightly bad odds to call this raise. Moreover, we may be overvaluing our potential outs. If a 9 comes giving us a set, it may also give the villain a straight if he is holding KQ or 8Q. If an 8 comes he still may have a better straight. I would prefer folding in this spot.

On the turn you lead with a tiny 12c bet into a pot of $1.16. This is not good! You should always ask yourself "What do I want to accomplish by raising?" Your hand is not strong enough to be value betting. Nor is your bet is not large enough to force the villain to fold. You have a drawing hand and want to see the river cheap. Review the 3 points you listed in this post.

"to put pressure on opponent
to bluff
to protect against strong draws"

Your bet size does not accomplish any of these. In fact it does the opposite. You are building the pot in a spot where you probably do not have the best hand. The small bet looks weak and invites the villain to raise as he did. This is a clear fold. You only have 3 good outs. The non-diamond 8s since the villain may have just picked up a flush draw as well. The villain has shown strength on several streets. Since this is our first hand at the table, we have no read on him. Therefore we should give him credit for a real hand as his actions indicate.

On the river, you get lucky and catch an 8 for a straight. Now we need to ask ourself "What is the largest bet that the villain will call?" He slowed down on the turn and river. So, I would not expect him to call an all in. Now would be a good spot for a smaller bet, about half the villain's remaing stack. This leaves him with some chips so he may call with a top pair type of hand or he may move all in. You won a very nice pot here, but you were lucky.

The most important aspects with this hand are your paying the bb out of turn and your turn line.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:50 AM
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Hi sicilianu.ax,

Please let us know when you have passed the cash game course!

Joss


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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:06 AM
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i passed it
 
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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:02 PM
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i will get the second prize of 2 dollars
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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:49 PM
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Hi sicilianu.ax,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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