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Bankroll builder promotion - Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:01 AM
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Hello

I would like to start the bankroll builder course

cheers
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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 06:07 AM
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Hello

I would like to start the bankroll builder course

cheers
Smirnofff
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:15 PM
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Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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banroll builder hand feedback - Wed Jun 19, 2013, 04:57 AM
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Hello raiser,

here's a hand I played.
I would like to know if I should push (allin ?) sooner considering the low flush, the number of opponents and the level of play.



I also completed the basic course.

Cheers
Smirnoff
 
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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:05 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 09:46 AM
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Hi Smirnoff101!

With 67s from the cutoff and two limps in front of me, my key as to what to do will be based off my read of the button and blinds. If any of them have been raising frequently, then I will muck preflop since I do not have a hand strong enough to call a raise. If the opps are playing passively, then I'll call and hope to see a cheap flop.

I then get another limp, min-raise and min-3-bet (both of these bets are abnormally small, as a standard opening raise is to 3BB+1BB for each limper and a standard 3-bet is to between 3X the previous bet and a pot-sized raise). Since the pot has now been raised twice, I need to muck my very marginal hand.

If I saw the flop, which I would not, and see a flopped flush, I get a min-bet and a call with 4 opps. Post-flop bets need to be made based on the pot-size, number of opps and board texture. With 4 opps, my standard value bet would be a pot-sized bet, so I will make a pot-sized raise to 36 chips. I do NOT want to bet less than this, as I can be giving an opp with a aingle, larger, diamond, the correct odds to try to outdraw me, which is something that I always want to avoid if I think I have the best hand.

With 4 opps on the turn, I get an A and a bet and 2 calls. Once again, I need to make a pot-sized raise to 252. I want to keep all of my bets standard, so that the opps are continually guessing as to the strength of my hand. Players that bet more or less due to their cards are basically turning them face-up to an observant opp.

The river pairs the 3, which can be a big problem, as an opp can now have a full house. With 3 opps, if this were the flop or turn, my standard bet would be 3/4 pot, BUT, since this is the river and I can be beat, I will make a 1/2 pot value bet here.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:35 AM
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Thanks for the quick feedback !
I find all the postflop analysis most interesting !!!

Smirnoff
 
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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:52 PM
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I also completed the basic course.
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

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real money cash game hand - Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:07 AM
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Hello

Here's a hand in real money cash game.
I had no specific reading on the opponent as he joined the table recently.

I believe my call preflop is on the poor side. Altough 1.55 bb to call was cheap and I could easily fold if I dont hit enough.
Post flop, I was unsure if I should to 'donk lead'.
I'm still amazed by the fold though as only JJ (which I would have reraised preflop) or a better kicker was ahead.




Cheers
Smirnoff
 
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A 2nd hand in real money cash game - Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:22 AM
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Hello

Not sure if it fits the rules of the bankroll builder forum section but a few hands later I had another hand which proves more difficult to handle for me as I was OOP and flopped a big hand but was wary of draw and made hand like QT.

Only history with villain is that I 'forced' him to fold a previous hand by betting aggressively into the pot. He folded post flop only to see me holding a set of 5 (called down by a short stack who hit 2 pairs on the flop 596).



If the rule is not to comment on more than one hand feel free to chose which one is the most interesting in your opinion.

Cheers
Smirnoff
 
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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:51 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:10 AM
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Hello

Here's a hand in real money cash game.
I had no specific reading on the opponent as he joined the table recently.

I believe my call preflop is on the poor side. Altough 1.55 bb to call was cheap and I could easily fold if I dont hit enough.
Post flop, I was unsure if I should to 'donk lead'.
I'm still amazed by the fold though as only JJ (which I would have reraised preflop) or a better kicker was ahead.




Cheers
Smirnoff
Hi Smirnoff101!

With I would fold preflop vs an unknown raiser. Firstly you will be out of position all hand. Secondly, it is hard to play post flop. If they were suited, then you would have the added flush possibilities. The biggest danger with a hand like this though is actually flopping a pair, especially queens. It is very easy to run into a villain who has a Q but with a better kicker.

As played, you get a good flop. Note though Q10, QJ, QK and QA are still beating you in addition to JJ. All of those hands are in the villains raising range. You can still bet, but just be aware that you do not have the nuts. With so many draws connecting with the flop, I like your raise. This both gets you value for your hand and protects it at the same time.

The 2 on the turn is unlikely to have helped the villain. Leading is fine, but I think you bet too much. I would have bet about 70% of the pot, lets say 35c. This is enough to give anyone drawing bad odds to continue, but small enough that many of the hands you are beating, AK, AJ perhaps a flush draw will often continue. Remember, we want these hands to call. If we bet so much that only the hands beating us will continue, then we are value owning ourselves.

You got a great flop and a good result here, but remember it would have been better to fold preflop. You won't win in spots like this often enough to make calling preflop profitable. It sounds cheap to call, but it adds up quickly to be a big drain on our stack.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2013, 02:30 AM
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Hello

Not sure if it fits the rules of the bankroll builder forum section but a few hands later I had another hand which proves more difficult to handle for me as I was OOP and flopped a big hand but was wary of draw and made hand like QT.

Only history with villain is that I 'forced' him to fold a previous hand by betting aggressively into the pot. He folded post flop only to see me holding a set of 5 (called down by a short stack who hit 2 pairs on the flop 596).



If the rule is not to comment on more than one hand feel free to chose which one is the most interesting in your opinion.

Cheers
Smirnoff
Hi again Smirnoff

We are here to help you learn. So posting an extra hand is fine.

Before we look at the hand, let's look at your table. There are 4 open seats! This is not good as it forces you to play a much wider range of hands creating a ton of difficult postflop spots with marginal holdings. This is why we require that you play full ring and not 6-Max for example. If people leave your table and the seats don't quickly fill up, I suggest you do the same. Also, be sure to set the Filter in the Holdem Lobby to only show tables with 8 players. That way when you sit down, all the seats will be filled. That is what I do.

Now, on to your hand. At a full 9 man table. 99 is at the low end of my opening range for utg. It can be profitable, but it is tough. With so many empty seats, opening with 99 is definately a good choice.

You flop a set on a dangerous board. I'm glad you recognized the draw potential. This is not a spot to slowplay. Firsly, you are probably ahead on the flop. Betting gets you value by building the pot and protects your hand. Your bet size looks great. It is big enough to give a drawing hand poor odds to chase. Secondly, there is a good chance this board helps the villain in some way. That means he is likely to call your c-bet.

Leading on the turn is also great for the reasons above. Also, note an important aspect. If the villain is chasing a draw, we MUST bet now on the turn while he still has hopes of catching a card on the river. If we wait until the river, then the villain will typically fold his missed hands when you bet. Betting now gets you more value out of the hand. Again your bet size was good. It was large enough to give the villain poor odds to chase.

The river was a brick and you are most likely ahead. The villain will not call a large pot sized bet if he is only holding a missed draw. Therefore, making a smaller bet as you did is perfect. It helps to entice the hands you are beating into calling.

Nice job! I would have played the hand just like you did

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2013, 03:00 AM
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Hello

Thanks for the feedback!
I'll keep in mind my poor call with Q9 oop and the fact such calls will drain my stack/BR if I keep doing this.

Here are my answer for the 'big bet' question:
  • put of lot of pressure on opponents
  • bluff peopleoff decent hands
  • gain value from very strong hands

I've also passed the cash game quizz.

Thanks for all the help and this bankroll builder idea/promotion. It is pretty fun and instructive !
Keep the challenges coming !

Cheers
Smirnoff
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:57 AM
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I've also passed the cash game quizz.
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:51 PM
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Hello,

I just finished earning the 10 VPPs.
But mainly I really enjoyed the few sessions thanks to your advices and the videos (back to the basics is so important)

thanks a lot and keep up the good work !
Smirnoff
 
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Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:46 AM
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Hello,

I just finished earning the 10 VPPs.
But mainly I really enjoyed the few sessions thanks to your advices and the videos (back to the basics is so important)

thanks a lot and keep up the good work !
Smirnoff
Brilliant,

Your Bankroll Builder progress is moving along nicely and you've got your 3rd bonus!

Step Three

Now we really want you to up your game! Your challenge is to earn 10 VPPs after getting today's buy-in.

Note that any VPPs that you have earned up to this point won't count, only those earned AFTER you get your 3rd buy-in.

When you hit your target of 10 VPPs we will award you with your final Bankroll Builder bonus. Let us know when you reach the target.

Also, if you make a deposit at this stage we will also award you with your final bonus.

Best of Luck at the tables and let us know as soon as you have earned the 10 VPPs or if you make a deposit.

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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 04:28 AM
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Thank you royalraise !

I didnt expect my BR to improve so nicely. Just trying to keep my head cool as on first 'cash' day I really was on a heater.
Also faced a cooler yesterday to help me keep my feet on the grounds




Cheers
Smirnoff
 
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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:33 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:49 AM
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Hello

I had a bad session today and here are 3 hands were I lost quite some chips.
I would really appreciate some hint(s) on where I went wrong, didnt 'listen' to the opponents, ... as I believe this is how I'll learn the most.


Hand 1



Hand 2



Hand 3




Cheers
Smirnoff
 

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