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Bankroll Commencement - Tue Jun 18, 2013, 09:10 PM
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Hey I would like to take part in the bankroll builder promotion!
 
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Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:55 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 05:30 AM
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Hey I would like to take part in the bankroll builder promotion!
Hello,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.



After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.



Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:23 AM
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Kind of an interesting hand. Turn over jam is either AA QT or nothing right? Hand didn't really play like either. But I don't know could have been a bad flop call?

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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:19 PM
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Did I do the promotion steps right?
 
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Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:47 PM
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Did I do the promotion steps right?
Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 03:24 AM
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Kind of an interesting hand. Turn over jam is either AA QT or nothing right? Hand didn't really play like either. But I don't know could have been a bad flop call?
Hi thxfomoney!

Was this hand from a tourney or a higher stakes cash table? Aslo, what notes did you have on the villain?

Preflop looks good. You made it 3x plus 1x for each limper. You flop middle pair, I would recommend making a standard 70% pot c-bet. Your bet of 5K into 13.5K is too small. We don't want to let anyone chasing a draw have good odds to continue. Also, the small c-bet will often induce a raise as happened here. With middle pair, your hand isn't strong enough to want to be building the pot. A read on the villain would help us interpret the min-raise better. As played, calling the min-raise is ok.

The turn gives you two pair, but the board is dangerous. There are a few made hand combos beating you as well as plenty of drawing hands. I would normally lead with a bet now. You are likely to be ahead and do not want to give a drawing hand good odds to continue.

Normally I would expect AK and AA to have 3-bet preflop. So Q10, JJ and 88 are the only likely threats with made hands. But most good players are not going to overbet the pot with these hands because they don't want you to fold. Semi-bluffs on the other hand may overbet here, especially weaker agro players like to do this. They want you to fold, may have a piece of the board and most likely have some potential draw outs if you look them up. Without a read on the villain, I would rather fold and wait for a better spot if this is a cash game. If you know the villain is a bit of a maniac, then calling as you did is fine.

I hope you made a note on the villain! He called your pf raise, min-raised the flop and jammed the turn with Q8o!? This can be extremely useful info later and this is a player you definately want to have at your table.

Nice pot!

Roland GTX
 
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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:43 AM
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Hello,

Please let us know as soon as you pass the Poker Basic quiz and we'll award you with your 1st bonus

Cheers,

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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:40 AM
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Hey,

I believe i have already passed it. Beside the course it says completed
 
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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:49 PM
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Hey,

I believe i have already passed it. Beside the course it says completed
Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Thu Jun 20, 2013, 10:10 PM
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Unfortunate result, probably should just jam the turn.

-to protect against strong draws
-to apply pressure to opponents
-to fold out decent holdings.

It says I recently passed a quiz so i can't take it yet, but I'll let you know as soon as i can.
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:20 AM
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Test Passed
 
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Fri Jun 21, 2013, 01:31 PM
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Hi thxfomoney! I'll take a look at this real money hand.

Pre-flop with AA is standard. You get 2 callers, one of whom has position on you, but with an overpair you can take a standard line, betting for value and folding if you get raised. The flop is quite wet, with flush and straight draws. Since the pot is multiway, you're likely to get action, so a bet of close to pot is appropriate. 15c into 19c is fine. Anything less gives decent draws better odds to call. The turn T makes the board even wetter, but the only OESD on the flop was QT which just made a "wasted pair". Villain usually has a pair+draw hand at this point, so you can get more value. I wouldn't recommend shoving here, because that will fold out all worse hands (so you don't get value) and only get called by monsters (two pairs, straights). The river is a bit of an annoyance, as villain can have a jack in his range, because hands like QJ and AJ would usually call the flop and turn with their pair+draw. I think betting again is the right play, however. You're also getting called by random kings, as 2NL villains are pretty much incapable of folding top pair, even on scary boards like this. If villain raises, you can snap-fold, because you never have the best hand. Another river option is to check-call, because some players will make a bluff with a missed flush draw. Without reads/notes that tell you this player will make a bluff, betting is better. Villain shows up with J9s which is unfortunate, but I can see how that hand makes it to the river, as villain had a pair + FD on the flop, and picked up a few more outs on the turn.

Hope this helps and you have better luck with the next stage of the promotion!
Cheers,
Arty


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Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:39 PM
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Test Passed
Hello,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:20 AM
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I think I cleared the 10 points but I could be wrong. Does it take 24 hours or something after reaching the mark?
 
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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:25 AM
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I think I cleared the 10 points but I could be wrong. Does it take 24 hours or something after reaching the mark?
Hello,

Yes, that's right. If you've earned the 10 VPPs you will get your 3rd bonus within 24 hours.

Let us know when you get it and we'll advise on the next step

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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:12 PM
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I think I cleared the 10 points but I could be wrong. Does it take 24 hours or something after reaching the mark?
Congratulations!

As you've earned enough VPP's we have awarded you with all your Bankroll Builder buy-ins and you have successfully completed the promotion, good job!

You are always welcome to post any troublesome hands in the >>Hand Analysis<< section.

Also it is a good idea to review some of the content on >>Bankroll Management<< at this point.

Keep in touch with us and let us know how your poker journey continues.

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