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my bad habit - Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:02 AM
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Since: Jan 2013
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when i start to play i win a lot .......... leave a table and join another ; win again and again ...... All goes well but suddenly i start losing , bad beats and a lot of variance ...... all goes down ....... i leave and join another table but lose again and again . ....... i keep loosing till my bankroll touches zero ........ i want a solution ...... hope that someone would help me. here is my statistics for 331 hands :
Hold'em (Real Money):

331 hands played and saw flop:
- 59 times out of 79 while in small blind (75%)
- 38 times out of 75 while in big blind (51%)
- 79 times out of 177 in other positions (45%)
- a total of 176 times out of 331 (53%)

Pots won at showdown - 21 out of 55 (38%)
Pots won without showdown - 81
 
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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:25 AM
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Since: May 2011
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I strongly recommend you to read The Mental Game Of Poker by Jared Tendler. A lot of the stuff in there is designed to work things like this out. Also, if you have a tracker such as Holdem Manager or Pokertracker, look through your sessions and see if you're maybe stacking off too light or bet/fold too much and things like that.




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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:47 AM
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Hi siingh,

Poker is a game that can be either won or lost, but still be profitable in the long run with a decent sized hand sample, it ultimately comes down to good decisions being consistently made.

I'd start with NOT table hopping after winning a pot!(unless the table is filled with regulars) The reason for this, each time you decide to change tables after winning a pot, we'll have to adjust to new players that we have no reads on and an entirely different table dynamic. I'd prefer to stay at a table that I won some chips on and was able to see some of the villains showdown hand ranges coupled with notes taken about their tendencies, to me this would be the most profitable decision.

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331 hands played and saw flop:
- 59 times out of 79 while in small blind (75%)
- 38 times out of 75 while in big blind (51%)
- 79 times out of 177 in other positions (45%)
- a total of 176 times out of 331 (53%)

Pots won at showdown - 21 out of 55 (38%)
Pots won without showdown - 81
Are these stats for 9-Max or 6-Max?

It appears that you are playing a very high percentage of the hands that are dealt to you and getting to showdown to often. This may be an indicator as to why a bad streak of variance has come. Playing speculative and marginal hands to often will yield results that are losing. The majority of winning decisions that are made post flop start with pre-flop, meaning..good hand selection and position.

I'd suggest tightening up your game and playing only solid value hands while being positionally aware. In time, you will see this approach to be very profitable. Once you have gained experience and got a good feel for hand reading, then that is when you can start opening up your starting hand range.

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Hope this helps.



Good luck and good decisions,
CannonLee



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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 10:19 AM
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Hi siingh!

What you're going thru is not a variance streak... it's from playing too many hands. I aim for 20% flops seen with the absolute lowest number being from the SB since it's the worst positional disadvantage at the table. Also, I aim for a 75-80% won at showdown percentage. One that is way less is due to players that need to learn patience and how to fold.

Especially when out of position, I only want to be playing premium hands and need to muck everything else preflop. Chasing with bad cards can have a player get lucky every once in a while, but it's a losing proposition long-term.

Good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
331 hands played and saw flop:
- 59 times out of 79 while in small blind (75%)
- 38 times out of 75 while in big blind (51%)
- 79 times out of 177 in other positions (45%)
- a total of 176 times out of 331 (53%)
I assume your fold button is not working otherwise it doesnt make sense
 
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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:09 PM
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Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 3,310
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Hi siingh!
What you're going thru is not a variance streak... it's from playing too many hands. (JWK24)
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I assume your fold button is not working otherwise it doesnt make sense
I agree,
Most people know that I'm profitable at cash games and I play a tight game. I asked PS to send me my stats for my last 2,000 hands and here they are:

2000 hands played and saw flop:
- 41 times out of 332 while in small blind (12%)
- 60 times out of 336 while in big blind (18%)
- 97 times out of 1332 in other positions (7%)
- a total of 198 times out of 2000 (10%)
Pots won at showdown - 29 out of 62 (47%)
Pots won without showdown - 208

I don't agree completely with CannonLee, but if you want to leave a table with profit, wait till you have reached 50-75% profit. Then when you open up a table, play very tight and take notes on the players, only then can you open up.
The mistake most players do is that when they are in profit they think they're unbeatable

You are definitely playing wayyyyyyyy to many hands

GL
 
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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:32 PM
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Since: Oct 2011
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Just as a small addition to the great posts above, the looser you play, the greater the swings (variance). If you're playing a lot of hands and go on a heater, you can have a huge upswing, but when you start missing every draw, you'll rapidly go busto. Loose players experience greater variance than tight players simply because they are gambling more often. (Viktor Blom is a case in point. His upswings and downswings are insane). If you can't cope with the variance, then play tighter!


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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 01:55 PM
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Since: Feb 2011
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Running well at limit but I like limit because there is less variance and a few whales that chase, chase, chase. I also 4+ table to reduce my variance even further, I may lose on 3 tables but win more on the other 1. I also identify the whales at each table as they are the ones that donate the most.

To the OP, tight is right. Rock up and play premiums. It's not optimal strategy but it's break even at worst. Develope your game from there.
 

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