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Bankroll Builder - Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:04 PM
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Hello,
I would like to take a part in the Bankroll Builder Promotion.... thanks
 
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Sat Jun 22, 2013, 05:15 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Sun Jun 23, 2013, 12:20 AM
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Hi Lomnicka17,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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"Play Money" hand - Sun Jun 23, 2013, 02:04 PM
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I am not sure about my raising in this hand..... should I raise more on Turn or even more on River??? Because I was worried if I raise too much they will fold.... so what is the right thing to do in similar situations??

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Ready for the first bonus :) - Sun Jun 23, 2013, 02:31 PM
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Hello again,

I have accomplished all 3 steps in order to get my first reward....
 
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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:26 PM
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Helooooo..... did I forget to do something??? because you didn't come back to me after I posted my Play Hand......
 
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Mon Jun 24, 2013, 05:42 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:34 AM
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I am not sure about my raising in this hand..... should I raise more on Turn or even more on River??? Because I was worried if I raise too much they will fold.... so what is the right thing to do in similar situations??
Hi Lomnicka17!

With I suggest folding preflop in this spot. You hand can be strong enough to open with if it folds to you on the btn or sb AND the blinds are tight passive players. Normally though, this hand is too weak to play. We always need to ask ourselves "What am I hoping to flop?" If you flop a 9 you will rarely have top pair. If you flop a Q we can risk losing a big pot to a villain with a Q and a better kicker. Furthermore, your cards are not suited nor are they fully connected like QJ or 910. Therefore you don't have a good shot at flopping a flush or straight draw. In other words, there are not many flops that allow us to play confidently post flop. It seems cheap to call and hope you get lucky, but in the long run all these "cheap calls" add up to make for a big drain on you bankroll.

As played, we should look at your bet sizes. On the flop you have top pair with a weak kicker. Betting is fine but I would suggest making it smaller about 35c. Anyone planning on folding will fold to that as easily as a larger bet. On a dry board betting 50% of the flop is standard. If the board is draw heavy, we should bet a bit more about 70% of the pot. We should only be betting pot sized when we have a very strong hand such as a set AND we have good reason to believe the villain(s) will stay in the hand.

The A on the turn is not great for you. It is an overcard and at playmoney villains play most Ax hands. It folds to you. I would suggest checking, or making a larger bet if you plan on betting, about 50% of the pot or 99c. Small bets allow anyone chasing or holding a middle pair type hand to continue at a good price. Your hand is not strong enough to want to encourage that on the turn.

On the river I would suggest checking again, or moving all in if you intend on betting. The pot is 385 and you only have 105 left. Moving all in is only about 1/4 the pot. So anyone willing to call any bet will call that one. This will get you the most value if you are ahead.

Note though, folding preflop is best with this hand. Furthermore, be careful about betting every street with marginal hands. At the real money tables you will quickly find that this results in more losses than wins.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:40 AM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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I need an advise - Tue Jun 25, 2013, 02:36 PM
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Thank you for my hand analyse and for my first reward.....

I have a dilemma now.... can you help me, please??? I recently passed the PSO Sit & Go Quiz... as a reward I can receive 3 x $1.50 tourney entry tickets, but I must make a deposit of $10 first, in order to get them.... I am taking a part in this Bankroll Builder Promotion and I know that I can do it only if I didn't make any real money deposit yet.... will it affect my ongoing promotion here if I make my first deposit, so I can get my reward from passing PSO Sit & Go Quiz?????

Can you let me know what should I do, as soon as possible, please????
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 03:35 PM
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Hi Lomnicka17!

The best thing you can do is to complete step 2 of the Bankroll Builder promo and receive the second bonus, then deposit and use the promo code to get the sng tickets, as depositing after step 2 is completed and your second BB bonus is awarded, will also unlock the last two bonuses.

John (JWK24)


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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 04:40 PM
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Thank you John,

easier said than done.... I have trouble with passing the Cash Game Quiz ....and I must make that deposit within 16 days or I will lose those tickets.....
But I will keep trying it!!!!

PS: I was playing with you at the PSOSOP event little while ago....
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:45 PM
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I am posting my hand from real money ring table.... should I be more aggressive with my hand in this case???

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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:58 PM
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I watched the Bet Sizing video and here are my answers to your question:

1. To put lot of pressure on opponents
2. To gain value from very strong hands
3. To protect against strong draws


Now I have finished all 3 tasks for the Bankroll Builder
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:57 PM
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Hi Lomnicka17!

As with the Q9o hand that Roland analysed, isn't strong enough to play in this position. With any hand that is strong enough to play, you should come in for a standard raise of 3bb. Limping in (just calling the big blind) is weak, and it means you can't win the pot immediately. When you limp, you'll actually have to hit the flop, and that's hard, because you'll miss about 70% of the time.
As played, you limped, and the BB raised. He usually has a strong hand here, and QT should be folded. It's dominated by better queens (AQ, KQ, QJ) and is crushed by big pairs (QQ+). You decide to call, and about the only thing going for you is that you have position on the BB, so can see what actions he takes post-flop.
The flop comes Q65 with a flush draw. This is a pretty good flop for you, as you made top pair, average kicker, but you're still losing to QQ+ and better queens. Villain makes a continuation bet, and you call, which is standard. You might be ahead (if villain has something like AK or JJ) but you might be behind, so keeping the pot-size under control is fine. The turn is relatively blank and villain bets again, but this time it's less than half pot. He seems weak, as I think top pair or better would bet at least half pot. Calling again is fine. The 9 on the river is another blank. The only draw it completes is a straight for 87, but that already had a straight on the turn, and villain wouldn't normally raise 87 pre-flop anyway. On the river, villain checks. To me it looks like he's given up, either with AK that stayed as ace high, or an underpair like JJ or TT. I'd sometimes check behind here, as it's hard to get called by worse, but making a thin value bet to get calls from JJ/TT could work nicely. About 1/3 of pot would be my preference when I'm targetting a weak range on the river. Your bet of 10c into 66c is really small, and sometimes this could induce villain to make a bluff-raise, as you're showing weakness. Here villain just folds, so he probably had AK.

I think you were quite lucky here. QT doesn't make money in the long run, and you shouldn't be putting money in the pot on every street if you only have one pair. Nevertheless, the line you took post-flop in this situation was fine. If villain had made a big bet on the turn, the correct play would be to fold.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
Arty


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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:12 PM
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Thank you Arty for your feedback... it will help me in the future....
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:55 PM
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Hi Lomnicka17,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:29 AM
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Hello Joss,

I earned 10VPPs.... I finished all your tasks and received all your bonuses... thanks for all your help and advices.... it was a very good Promotion......

Ludmila

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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:09 AM
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Congratulations!

As you've earned enough VPP's we have awarded you with all your Bankroll Builder buy-ins and you have successfully completed the promotion, good job!
You are always welcome to post any troublesome hands in the hand analysis forums in the Poker Education section.

Also it is a good idea to review some of the content on Bankroll Management at this point.

Keep in touch with us and let us know how your poker journey continues.

Joss


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