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Bankroll builder-imrankhan888 - Tue Jun 25, 2013, 07:11 AM
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Sir I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.Please help me to do this. Thankyou.
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 07:47 AM
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Sir I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.Please help me to do this. Thankyou.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 05:16 PM
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Hi imrankhan888,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Play money hand - Tue Jun 25, 2013, 11:39 PM
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SIR DID I PLAY THIS HAND CORRECTLY? HERE I CONSIDER THE POT SIZE TO CALL.
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:53 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:13 AM
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Hi imrankhan888!

With ATs in the SB, I get an abnormally large raise from UTG (a standard raise would be to 3BB+1BB for each limper, so with 2 limpers, a standard raise is to 10 chips), an all-in and a call of the initial raise. While ATs does have some potential, it is nowhere near a strong enough hand to call these bets and due to that, I need to muck. To be in at least a 4-way pot with an abnormally large raise, I would want to have a premium made hand (QQ, KK, AA). Anything weaker, I need to muck and look for a better spot.

If I was in the hand (which I would not be), when I see that I flop the nut flush draw, I need to see if it makes sense to call the bet and raise. It will cost me 68 chips into a pot that will be 302 (22.5%). I have 9 outs to my flush and from the rule of 4 and 2, I have 2% equity per out per street, so to see the turn, I have 9*2 or 18% equity in my hand. Since the pot equity (22.5%) is higher than what my hand is worth (18%), I need to muck. If I call here, I will LOSE chips on average every single time that I call.

When drawing, I always need to make sure that I have the correct odds to draw. If I do not, then I need to muck, as I will lose chips on average by doing so. I want to get my chips into pots where I will win chips on average, not ones where I will lose chips on average.

The key here is to muck a marginal hand, especially from out of position, preflop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:35 AM
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Sir I have completed PSO basics and passed the quiz. Waiting for further instructions.
ThANKYOU
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:22 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:02 PM
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Sir is it correct play?
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:11 PM
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Sir i was shocked with his calling on flop and turn. in this situation how to be confident with my hand is this correct play and bet sizeing?
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:01 PM
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Sir i raised 5bet with AK off i got 3callers i found Q on the flop how can i make C-bet with 3 callers to my bet out of position.may i know correct play with this hand out of position.
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:24 PM
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Sir that he raised 5bb with 68 being in position i called willing to gamble. my thinking that with 5BB i can expect AA AK QQ AQ JJ, i turned with two pair and call allin not expecting 6. when i saw a 6 i was shocked. my doubt is reading at this levels is difficult or easy. how to improve the readind skills. and do you accept playing like this. I played for around 1hour i got 23 cents as profit. high 2.78$ low 1.43$
is it good progress or not?
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:46 AM
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Thank you for posting these hands for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at them for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once they have been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:50 AM
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1.Sir i played 0.01$/0.02$ NLHE cash and posted the hands
2.3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet
1. To protect hand against strong draws
2. To build pot with strong hands
3. To bluff with decent hands
3.Sir i have passed cash game quiz
Thankyou and waiting for next instructions
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:21 PM
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Hi imrankhan888! I'll take a look at the hands in posts #9-12 and give you some advice on your play.

The first thing to point out is that these hands were played on 6-max tables, where the play is loose and aggressive. The PSO beginner courses are designed for full ring tables, where a disciplined and patient style is profitable, so please sit on 9-handed tables for the remainder of this promotion.

9. With 99, facing a raise, my plan is to call and go set-mining. My aim is to flop a set of trips and try and win a big pot by betting and raising, but if I don't make a set, I usually won't put another cent in the pot. In this 3-way pot, the flop comes 864 with a flush draw, and a villain goes all in for 72c into a 27c pot, meaning you immediately have a big decision. Large overbets like this are usually a tell of a big hand. On this board, villain can have a lot of hands that are beating you, and also a few that have a good chance to beat you if they aren't already. You have an overpair, which is considered a strong hand, but it's the worst overpair on this board. If villain has TT+, a set with 88/66/44, or a flopped straight with 75, you're drawing almost dead. If villain has a pair plus a draw, you're barely a favourite. Since villain's range is mostly beating your hand, the correct play is to fold. Here villain had top pair, a flush draw and an overcard, so you were actually ahead on the flop, but in this exact situation, he will win the pot 49% of the time when all the cards are out. This is basically a 50/50 coinflip. Don't take big gambles like this when you're not a big favourite. Wait for better spots to get your chips in the middle, when you have a very strong hand, like top two pairs or trips. Don't go broke with one pair.

2. You call a raise in the blinds with AJ and the flop comes J44. This is a good flop for you, but the line you took is unconventional. The way to make the most money is usually take a standard line. Here, that means checking to the pre-flop raiser, and then calling his c-bet, because he's likely to put money in the pot whether he hit this flop or not. By leading out with a donkbet, you give the raiser an opportunity to fold hands that he might have bet with. When you have the best hand, you don't want villain to fold. Here, villain calls the flop and turn, which makes me worried he has you beat. Since he raised pre-flop, it's perfectly possible he has QQ+. Don't build the pot when it's not clear you're ahead. Check to the raiser and call his bets to keep the pot relatively small. If villain checks behind, then you can be sure you have the best hand, so then you can bet for value.

3. With AK facing a minraise, a standard size for the reraise (called a "3-bet") would be three times the size of the initial raise. Making a 5x raise is excessive. Big bets and raises mean worse hands are likely to fold, and lead to villains only calling with hands that beat you. I'm quite surprised to see three players all call this raise, but they probably have medium/big pairs. The flop comes Q64, and my plan in this situation would be to just give up. If it was a heads up pot, then c-betting would make sense, but with 3 players in the pot, you're more likely to get called, and your ace high is unlikely to be the best hand. Since you don't make TPTK, it's fine to fold as soon as there is a bet.

4. With 54 facing a raise, the best play is to fold. This hand is trash. It might have the possibility of cracking someone's aces, but it won't do it often enough for calling to be profitable in the long run. I have some advice on the type of hands you can call raises with on my blog.
As played, you call in position, and then there is a min-3-bet to 10c. When the action comes back to you, you have a great price to call, but I'd much prefer you weren't in this situation, because now you're putting a whole 10c in the pot when you have five high! This is not +EV. The flop comes 874, so you have bottom pair and a gutshot, but you're drawing to the "idiot end" of the straight. When villain c-bets, he usually has an overpair, since he 3-bet pre-flop. You call the half pot bet, which is a mistake, because you don't have the right odds with your weak draw, and the turn brings a 5. You made two pairs, but there are now 4 connected cards on the board. If villain has a 6, then he has a straight. This is the kind of trouble you get into when you play hands like 54. It doesn't make the nuts very often. Since villain 3-bet pre, it seems very unlikely that he has a 6 in his range, but his overbet shove changes everything. I'd be worried that he has pocket sixes and just got lucky. You have two pairs, so it all comes down to reads. If villain has been playing like a maniac, then random 6s can be in his range. The size of his bet may make me fold here, as I don't like calling big bets without very strong hands. Bottom two pairs is not a very strong hand. As played, you call, and villain does indeed have a 6. His hand is quite shocking! I would be making notes on this guy, as he will be a big source of profit if he makes plays like min-3-betting with junk. You're extremely lucky on the river and hit one of the four outs that gives you a full house. Just note that when all the money went in, you were way behind. Calling off your stack with the worst hand is a good way to go busto quickly.

Hope this helps!
Cheers,
Arty


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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 01:27 PM
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Sir did i play this hand correctly? Odds of calling on full house possible board. how to analyse this hand and game? if this type of hand happens next time how to play?

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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 02:59 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:41 PM
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1.Sir i played 0.01$/0.02$ NLHE cash and posted the hands
2.3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet
1. To protect hand against strong draws
2. To build pot with strong hands
3. To bluff with decent hands
3.Sir i have passed cash game quiz
Thankyou and waiting for next instructions.
 
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Fri Jun 28, 2013, 04:58 AM
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Fri Jun 28, 2013, 05:08 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

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