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Bankroll Builder - Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:19 AM
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Hello
I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.
 
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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 11:20 AM
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Hello
I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion.
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:26 PM
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Hello IMdaOracle,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:20 PM
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Utg moves allin deep, I knew he probably didn't had a real hand so I decided to call with only AQs. 1 more player called, and they had both dead cards. Turns out 1 of them hit 2/5 outs, and the other hits flush. My question is, even if I know that the opponents probably have weak hands should I call in early position with hands like ATs AJ AQ, 77?
Sorry bad english, it's not my native language

ps: I have completed the 3 steps


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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:22 PM
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Hi IMdaOracle,

Thanks for posting the hand, we'll have the hand analysis done shortly. Then I'll give you your first bonus followed by your next steps
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:37 PM
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Hi IMdaOracle!

With AQs from UTG+1, I see UTG make an abnormally large shove, as a std raise for them is to 3BB+1BB for each limper or 30 chips. While AQs is a hand with potential, I don't want to be calling abnormally large shoves with an unmade hand (I only have ace high), especially if there are opps behind that can be in the pot too. The more opps in the hand, the worse my hand will play. If I had QQ, KK or AA, I would call this, but I'm mucking anything else and looking for a spot to get my chips in when I know I'll be ahead.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:01 PM
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Brilliant!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!

flophitter
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 03:31 PM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

Not realy interesting but it's the best I have because I only played a few hands.
I know I shouldn't even played that hand but they were all playing tight, and I think I had a tight image and tried to "steal" those blinds.
The BB didn't believed me and I lost 3/4. Lost the 0.5$ with a open-ended str8 draw. I know I played bad but I've been studying, and I will do better next time.


3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

To protect hand against strong draws
To build pot with strong hands
To bluff with decent hands

I've completed all steps and now I'm not bluffing again, that K on the river was just too good to let go lol. I think I would have won the hand against other player, I had no notes on any player so it made it tougher.
Thanks
 
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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 08:33 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:14 PM
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Hi IMdaOracle! I'll check out the hand in post #8.

With AT offsuit under the gun, I'd actually recommend you just fold. This is a trouble hand, and with 8 players still to act, it's likely not the best. On this table though, your UTG raise is given a lot of credit, and only the BB calls, so you actually have the benefit of position, which is rare UTG. For the ranges of hands I'd recommend you play in early positions (very few indeed), see my blog.

The flop comes Q44, and instead of checking to the raiser, the villain leads out with a donkbet of close to pot. I'm always folding here. While villains often lead out with draws and weak pairs, a pot-sized donkbet usually indicates top pair or a monster, and the villain won't be folding. When you raise this bet, you're repping QQ+ and AQ, which is a very narrow range, but villain probably isn't good enough to recognise that. He's just a level one thinker that hit his hand, so he's going to go all the way to showdown with it. When he calls the raise and re-donks the turn, I'm out of there in a hurry. Villain's range is starting to look more like a monster, such as trips with A4s. The king on the river is a scare card for Qxx, but villain is nearly calling if you bet here. Indeed, it's standard to do so. He doesn't want to bet and get raised, so check-calling gets him to showdown.
In future, when you're the pre-flop aggressor and someone donks into you when you have ace high and no draw, just fold. Donkbets are annoying, but they save you money, as you would usually have made a c-bet. You also don't have much fold equity against frequent donkbets, unless the villain bets really small, indicating he has a weak hand/draw. When a villain pots it, he's not going to be hitting the FOLD button any time soon, so it's pretty spewy to try and barrel him off whatever he has.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
Arty


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Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:12 AM
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Hello IMdaOracle,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.


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Fri Jun 28, 2013, 08:18 AM
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Do I still have to play full rings? It's first time I'm playing FR, I usualy play 6-max, and I do much better there because I have more experience.
 
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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:59 AM
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Yes you do IMdaOracle, it's apart of the terms of the promotion. But it's always worthwhile being able to adapt your skills to different forms of the game.
 
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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:31 PM
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I have 12.41 FPP's. Is FPP's the same as VPP's?
 
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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:53 PM
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With this lucky river I have now 10$
 
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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:55 PM
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With this lucky river I have now 10$

 
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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:37 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:29 PM
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Hi,
Hand Analysis

We are sitting on a 135bb stack and to make things that much sweeter we have the best starting hand in hold'em! With limpers in the pot ahead of us, I'd open up the action with the standard raise amount 3x the big blind + 1bb for each limper 12 to 14c is ideal. This raise sizing will help to get maximum value post flop as the pot is now inflated!


Post flop, the villain limp called our raise, usually a limping range is perceived as a weak range! This flop texture will hit a lot of their range Jx J8 J9 JT JQ JK and quite possibly some Tx T9+. I would rule out this villain raising a flush draw, it appears they want to fast play their hand based on their stack depth and raise sizing, usually an indicator of top pair. As played you did perfect post flop, there are so many hands that are value owning them self in this spot and there are very few hands that we a behind at this point. Very nice pot and great profit so far!

Hope this helps.


Good luck and good decision,
CannonLee



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Sun Jun 30, 2013, 04:47 AM
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Hi IMdaOracle

Nice work with growing your bankroll

VPPs are not the same as FPPs, so you need to check and see when you have earned 10 VPPs since the 2nd bonus, then let me know and I'll advise on the next step. If you have any doubt we can run a check from here for you.

Hope it continues to go well for you at the tables
 
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Sun Jun 30, 2013, 07:03 AM
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I found the difference between FPP's and VPP's

I have earned at least 20 VPP's since 2nd bonus. What's next step?
 

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