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New plo challenge - Tue Jul 02, 2013, 02:38 PM
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Hi guys/girls,

im starting a new challenge for the rest of the year, ive kinda got bored of holdem, (wich i do alot)

I made a change last year and learnt plo, and i had rather good success from the game at micro limits, so as something new im going to do a fifty50 plo challenge.

going to start with 100 buy-ins at $1.50 level and see were it leads to.

I would like to turn $150 into $1k before the end of the year.

LETS see whats happens lol
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2013, 04:04 PM
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gl and run good!
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013, 11:30 AM
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I actually did play 100 of these games for roughly break even - pokerstars gave micro stakes players at PLO some good news recently - they have reduced the rake at PLO - a friend brought this to my attention, so i will turn this challenge into a cash game PLO challenge, congrats to pokerstars on listening to players concerning PLO rake.

I also want to point out that this is a 40bb buy-in challenge, i no that being a winning player at these levels means im missing out with not buying in for 100bb - but its the amount i,ve always bought in for in PLO. And i feel very comfortable playing with a 40bb stack.

So the new challenge.

100k hands of 0.01/0.02 6 max PLO
100k hands of 0.02/0.05 6 max PLO
100k hands of 0.05/0.10 6 max PLO.

The playing hands should be easily attainable, i usually play from 4-8 tables at a time at 6 max PLO.

$200 STARTING ROLL - TARGET = $1K.

Basically i roughly need a 5bb return on all 3 levels - i have achieved that at the 1st 2 levels before, so im confident to repeat that. escpecially now the rake is reduced.

If i reach my goal after 300k hands i will add another 3 stakes to this challenge and see were it takes me.

I do have alot of knowledge of PLO - its my fav game - so im really looking forward to this.

Lets put to bed the myth - that micro stakes PLO is not beatable

I will update after every 5k hands.

Last edited by ImpactPoint; Mon Jul 22, 2013 at 04:05 PM..
 
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Wed Jul 10, 2013, 04:30 PM
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First 5k hands complete.

0.01/0.02 6 max PLO - 5k hands = +$19.87 20bb winrate.

Will update at 10k hands.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:59 AM
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Hi,

Nice to see an Omaha challenge here in the forums! If you encounter difficult situations that you where unsure of, you are welcome to post a hand replay for evaluation in the Omaha Hand Analysis section >>click here<< and GodLikeRoy, talonchick, The Langolier and myself will be there to assist you!

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.




Good luck and good decisions,
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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:37 AM
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Lol - that was just the most brutal 5k hands in a long time lol


$0.01/0.02 10k hands +$1.38

Micro stakes PLO games are bizzare, when the rough times come in PLO, they certainly crush you, but not to worry, all u can do is consistantly get your money in good and wait for variance to go on holiday, 90k more hands should even anything out, will update after next 5k hands.
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2013, 08:07 PM
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1st 15k hands played.


0.01/0.02 6 max PLO - 15k hands = +$32.00 11bb winrate.


Watched a few of Daleroxxu,s videos on PLO - learnt a few more tricks by watching them, he has a very good understanding of PLO - will watch a few more, because picking little things up and learning new things enhancers your game further.

Will update at 20k hands.
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2013, 10:04 AM
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20k hands completed.


0.01/0.02 6 max PLO - 20k hands = +$47.18 11bb winrate.

Just a quick note, theres a player at this level who plays vpip/6 - pfr/4 - over 1.4 k hands he,s winning, not a vast amount, but winning, kinda shocking to behonest lol - be kool to keep tabs on him, because i cant see playing that tight to be even break even over a large sample.


Will update at 25k hands - progress is smooth at the moment.
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:12 PM
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Hey Impact Point

Fantastic results there with the omaha!! Cool to hear you gave it a go, and have done so well. I tried something similar a while ago, and well ... it made for a fun graph


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Seems like people who give omaha a shot, and do well, wind up sticking with it over hold'em. You liking it too?
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:38 PM
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wow man gr8 results keep the money comming


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Thu Jul 18, 2013, 04:45 AM
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Hey Impact Point

Fantastic results there with the omaha!! Cool to hear you gave it a go, and have done so well. I tried something similar a while ago, and well ... it made for a fun graph


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Seems like people who give omaha a shot, and do well, wind up sticking with it over hold'em. You liking it too?
Thanks for the comments guys, i would choose PLO over NL anytime of the day, i havent played nl cash for years, i would go as far as to say nl is a very boring game to me and that PLO is alot more fun, plus i think its more profitable, i,ve played PLO for 2 years now, and its time i found how to what level i can beat it, hopefully i wanna go as high as 0.50/1.00 - we,ll see.
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2013, 01:51 PM
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25k hands completed.


0.01/0.02 6 max PLO - 25k hands = +$46.24 9bb winrate.

Still on target for a 5bb over-all winrate, so happy with the progress, gonna try and get these 100k hands done at this level for mid august, then can get onto the 0.02/0.05 level.
 
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Sat Jul 20, 2013, 05:06 AM
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wow man looking awesome best of luck in the challange man


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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:54 PM
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30k hands completed.


0.01/0.02 6 max PLO - 30k hands = +$56.45 9bb winrate.

Really would like to get to 50k hands completed before the end of this month, i think that would give a good indication of my true bb, to 1% either way, i believe i can sustain to near 10bb winrate wich i have in the past, wich would be awsome over 100k hands.

Will update after 35k hands.

Congrats to kate on her new son, the future KING of england.
 
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Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:48 AM
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Congrats on your results so far, great stuff I'm not sure how you manage to follow 4-8 tables of 6max PLO at the same time though. I need full concentration to follow 1 table of Zoom!

Good luck with the rest of your challenge.
 
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Wed Jul 24, 2013, 01:59 PM
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Congrats on your results so far, great stuff I'm not sure how you manage to follow 4-8 tables of 6max PLO at the same time though. I need full concentration to follow 1 table of Zoom!

Good luck with the rest of your challenge.

At this lowest limit its actuallY easy to play 6-8 tables, its a simple ABC approach, play tight, bet for value, + unlike most i play a 40bb strategy wich really suits me, and deep stacked opponents really cant adapt to shallow stack play, + playing 40bb shallow your basically commited on the turn so it makes play rather easy, im commiting or folding for the most part, hence why i can play 8 tables.

As a side note, theres one player at 0.01/0.02 that plays 18 tables of normal + 4 tables of zoom - 22 tables? and plays 40% of hands - now thats serious lmfao.
 
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Fri Jul 26, 2013, 04:06 PM
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35k hands completed.


0.01/0.02 6 max PLO - 35k hands = +$59.30 8.5bb winrate.

Will update after 40k hands.

Had a discussion yesterday about plo/nl zoom - discussion was based on wether normal plo/nl tables are more profitable than zoom tables, in my opioion normal tables are more profitable, because i think zoom tables are more nitty,on the other hand you can play more hands at zoom, the question was, because you can play more hands at zoom does the bb/100 rate if lower even out because you can get more hands in, especially if your not a mass multi-tabler? if you play 6 tables of normal, hands per/hour would roughly be 400 hands/ph - were 4 zoom tables would be roughly 1k hands/ph. Would like anyones view on this.
 

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