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[JK] Bankroll Builder - Thu Jul 04, 2013, 06:55 PM
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Hello, I'm new to poker and I hope this will give me some boost to improve my play.
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2013, 01:04 AM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Fri Jul 05, 2013, 01:08 AM
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Hello chimst,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!

NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.

Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basic Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.

So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!

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Fri Jul 05, 2013, 02:08 AM
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Could You give me some analysis of this hand for future play?
 
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Fri Jul 05, 2013, 01:18 PM
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Hi chimst!

With J3 from UTG, I need to immediately fold this. Especially from early position, I only want to be playing very strong hands, as I'm at a huge disadvantage from early position post-flop. The only hands that I would play from this position are AK and large pairs. Even AQ is an iffy play from here.
Really bad hands should always be mucked from early position.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)

P.S. Please let me know when you have completed the quiz.


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Fri Jul 05, 2013, 06:02 PM
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I have completed all 3 steps.
 
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Sat Jul 06, 2013, 12:14 AM
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Brilliant chimst!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.

Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks complete and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!



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Sat Jul 06, 2013, 06:57 AM
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Should I have called all in on these cards?
 
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Sat Jul 06, 2013, 07:20 AM
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Player may want to make a big bet to:

- put a lot of pressure to opponents
- protect against strong draws
- gain value from very strong hands
- bluff people out of decent hands
 
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Sat Jul 06, 2013, 01:14 PM
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Hi chimst!

I will have the hand looked at, but this is NOT a FULL RING table, it's 6-max. Please only play FULL RING. If you play any more 6-max tables, you will make yourself INELIGIBLE for any future bonuses in this promotion.

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Sat Jul 06, 2013, 02:01 PM
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Hi chimst! I'll take a look at the hand in post #9.

As John pointed out, this is a 6-max table, where the play is loose and aggressive. The PSO beginner courses are designed for full ring tables, where a disciplined and patient style is profitable, so please sit on 9-handed tables for the remainder of this promotion. Nevertheless, I'll take a look at this hand.

You have K4o under the gun (UTG). This is a trash hand and you are in bad position. The best play is to fold. Limping in is a weak play that does not give you an immediate chance to win. In fact, it encourages players to take the initiative. The button raises, so the action comes back to you. This is your second chance to fold what rates to be the worst hand. As played, you call, and now you have to play the hand out of position, which is neither easy or profitable. You got a great flop, with top and bottom pair on K54. The standard play here is to check to the pre-flop raiser, to allow him to make a continuation bet with his entire range. Then you can come over the top with a check-raise for value. Instead, you lead out with a minbet of 2c into 15c. This bet makes no sense. If you have the best hand, you want to get value for it and you want to make it a mistake for villain to call with a draw. The villain pounces on your show of weakness, and raises it up to 8c. He could be doing this with a hand that beats you, such as a set, or a hand he thinks is best (like AK), or he may be (semi-)bluffing. I would re-raise for value and protection here. Two pairs is a strong hand that deserves a big pot. You did indeed raise, but it's a small raise to 15c. When trying to get value for your strong hands, your bets and raises should be somewhere between half pot and full pot. You can either look at the size of the pot at the top of the table, or just multiply the size of the current bet by three to find a good amount to raise to. I would have made it about 22c, to force villain into making a mistake if he has the worst hand. Villain calls your minraise and you see a turn card.
Bingo! You made a full house. Since you were the last raiser on the previous street, you should maintain the initiative and keep betting. A good size (as usual) would be between half pot and full pot, but you have less than a half pot bet in your stack, so you have to go all in. Villain calls with trips, top kicker, so you got all in as a big favourite, but unfortunately villain hit a 3-outer with the ace on the river.
You were unlucky here, but this bad beat would never have happened if you'd taken a standard line. Folding pre-flop would mean you lost no money at all, and a solid raise on the flop would have discouraged villain from calling with bottom pair. What happened in this hand is something that happens to lots of beginners. Villains suck out on the river, and it's all because you didn't bet big enough to stop them! If you bet/raise between half pot and full pot, these suck outs won't happen so often.

Hope this helps. better luck with the next stage of the promotion! Remember to find a 9-handed table.

Cheers,
Arty


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Sun Jul 07, 2013, 02:30 AM
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I'm sorry but I lost all bonus money on hand posted here so I wont be able to participate anymore.
 
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Sun Jul 07, 2013, 11:38 AM
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Hi chimst!

The last part of that step is to pass the cash basics quiz. Once you do so, this will unlock the second bonus. Please let me know when you have passed it.

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Sun Jul 07, 2013, 05:49 PM
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I have completed the cash game quiz.
 
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Sun Jul 07, 2013, 08:33 PM
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Hello chimst,

Fantastic!

Your second Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 2nd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 3rd bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your 2nd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

John (JWK24)


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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 08:44 AM
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How about this hand?
 
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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 01:00 PM
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Hi again chimst! Let's have a look at the hand in post #16.

87s is a nice speculative hand, but I'd generally only play it in late position or if there are already a couple of players in the pot, as that would improve the pot odds. Here you're in the SB and it's very hard to make a profit with suited connectors in this seat, because you'll be acting first post-flop. As played, you call the minraise and see a flop of Q84, so you made middle pair. Checking to the pre-flop raiser is the right play, as he's likely to make a continuation bet with his entire range, and you can decide whether to call based on the size of the bet. Villain actually checks behind, so I would presume that you have the best hand. When the turn gives you two pairs, I would lead out with a value bet, because there's no guarantee villain will bet, because he didn't bet the flop. You don't want villain checking behind again when he might call a bet that gives you some value. As played, you get a bit fancy and go for the check-raise. I'm not fond of this play. Check-raising looks so strong that a villain will often fold when you take that line. You don't want villain to fold if you have the best hand. Another problem is that when villain has a super-strong hand, he'll realise you are strong so he'll try and win your whole stack. In effect, the check-raise will fold out worse hands and only get action from better ones. You got really unlucky here, as that turn was the case seven. It gave you two pairs, but villain made a set, so you're drawing to 2 outs (the remaining 8s in the deck). I think most players are going broke here, so it was just an unlucky turn card for you.

Hope this helps! Better luck with the next stage of the promotion.
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
Arty


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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:18 AM
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I have lost 2nd bonus at the tables and i have posted losing hand.
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:17 PM
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Hello chimst,


Your third Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.


There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving your 3rd bonus and you will automatically be credited with your 4th bonus. Let us know if you hit that target.
2) If you lose your 3rd bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

John (JWK24)


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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 03:29 PM
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I have lost 3rd bonus and here's the losing hand.

 

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