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2NL FR (Saturday Game) - set on wet flop - Sat Jul 06, 2013, 05:12 PM
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Villain is TAG and I don't really take them for a flopped flush as, well why would I.. Anyway, should I raise the flop? I was thinking if I did it's hard to get action from worse hands so perhaps I'm value owning myself. But then calling allows the villain to draw. Also should with seat 1 behind me I'm unsure, although they play pretty much fit or fold post flop.

Played a similar hand earlier where I did raise the flop and got action from top pair no draw but it was a much looser villain and HU pot.



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Sat Jul 06, 2013, 05:40 PM
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In a standard 3-bet pot in a 2NL FR game, villain usually has QQ+/AK pre-flop, so he's not likely to have flopped a flush. Indeed it's impossible for that range to have a flush when the monotone board contains the ace. Just from card combos, AK is his most likely hand. He can have the nut flush draw with the sometimes, but if he has for example, he's probably not putting another cent in the pot if another spade hits the board.

I'm usually raising for value and to get money in before another spade comes, as it will either improve villain, or kill my action. The play works provided you also raise with draws. e.g. If you were a nut-peddling set-miner, I might fold to your raise if I have AKo on this flop, because you're never on a draw, but if you have semi-bluffs in your range, then I'll stack off with TPTK. As this is a 3-bet pot, and villain started with less than 100bb and he bet more than half pot, he's pretty much pot-committed whether you call or raise, but I guess some players could bet-fold the flop.

As played, the turn is a total blank, so it's a snap-call when villain shoves.

FWIW, I don't think of this as a wet flop. It's somewhat scary, but it only contains one good draw (the NFD), so it's not wet as such.


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Last edited by ArtySmokesPS; Sat Jul 06, 2013 at 05:43 PM..
 
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Sat Jul 06, 2013, 06:41 PM
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Ok wet is perhaps the wrong word to describe it but it's not what I'd call dry lol. I guess I do sometimes raise with draws in this spot so perhaps I should have raised. I think if you're right about the villains range I do get action from worse like the AK or QQ+ that have a spade. Thanks Arty!



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