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Bankroll Builder - Mon Jul 08, 2013, 03:04 AM
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Hi there,

I'm interested in taking the bankroll builder promotion and would like some more information.

abshark22
 
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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 06:17 AM
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Hi there,

I'm interested in taking the bankroll builder promotion and would like some more information.

abshark22
Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!

Please read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.

>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!

Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!

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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Hi abshark22,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Bankroll Builder feedback - Mon Jul 08, 2013, 10:54 AM
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Hey, i'm not sure about the way i played this hand? And generally i'm not sure of how to play pocket pairs?
 
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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 02:33 PM
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Hey, I also wanted to know that where do we find the "Getting Started Video"?
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013, 01:03 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

The "Getting Started Video" is the first video posted in "Step One," which you can find above.

Cheers


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Tue Jul 09, 2013, 01:17 AM
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Hi abshark22!

The first thing that I notice with this hand is that it is from a 6-max table and not a FULL RING one. This promotion is ONLY for full ring and once you receive a bonus from this promotion, playing any type of cash table other than 2NL FULL RING, will make you ineligible for any future bonuses in this promotion.

With 66 on the button, I have two choices. One is to make a standard raise, which is to 3BB+1BB for each limper (50)... OR... I can call and try to setmine. I can only try to setmine if all of the stacks at the table are deep enough (15 times the bet). If the stacks are not deep enough to setmine, then I need to raise or fold.

After I call, I get an abnormally small min-raise from an opp. Since I called the first time, if the stacks are still deep enough to setmine (15X) then I can call this bet. Otherwise, I need to fold. I do not want to re-raise here, as my bets will not be telling a consistant story throughout the hand. The first call says that my hand is weak and the re-raise says that it is strong... it just doesn't make sense.

When I see a flop that contains a pair and overcards, when an opp bets into me, I need to fold, as the overwhelming majority of the time, I'm going to be beat. If all of the opps had checked, then I'd check behind and hope to get a six on the turn (and fold to any turn bet if I miss). I want to be putting my chips into the pot when I have the best hand, not when I am most likely beat.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)


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Tue Jul 09, 2013, 03:58 AM
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So what should i do now, should i post another hand at a full ring table or what?
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013, 11:15 AM
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Hi abshark22,

Please let us know when you have passed your Poker Basics quiz, so we may move on to the next step!

Joss


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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:57 AM
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Hey I have passed the poker basics quiz. What next?
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:04 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Real Money table Hand Analysis - Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:52 AM
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Please tell me how to play this .
 
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The Answers for the Best sizing video question. - Fri Jul 12, 2013, 03:56 AM
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To put a lot of pressure on opponents.

To bluff people off decent hands.

To protect against strong draws.
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:49 AM
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That's how i lost my money.

Can i get the next buy-in now?
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:36 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:00 AM
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I lost all my money in that hand. When will i get the next 2$?
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:02 PM
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Hi abshark22,

You will receive your next bonus after your hand has been analysed.

Joss


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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:24 PM
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Hi abshark22! I'll take a look at the hands in posts #12 and #14 and then a moderator will let you know how to proceed with the promotion.

12. In this hand, a villain limps UTG and it's folded to you on the button where you have QJo. All three of the your options are reasonable. Folding is fine, as QJ is only marginally profitable in this position; raising to isolate the limper has merit; and calling isn't too bad either, as you're in position, and this is the kind of hand that you don't want to play a big pot with. As played, you over-limp, and you see a flop 4-handed. In a multiway pot, you generally need to make a strong hand to beat everyone, so you should be aiming to make trips or a straight, as one pair is unlikely to be good enough. The flop is a fairly dry 995 with a flush draw. Most players either missed this flop completely, or hit it very hard. You just have two overcards here, so when everyone checks, I think it's fine to check behind and see if you can improve for free. The turn gives you top pair. When everyone checks, betting for value is good. You can get called by various draws, so a bet of 6c into 8c is good. One villain check-calls and the river is an 8. The flush draw didn't get there, but the board is now quite wet, with several straight possibilities. You've ended up with top pair, average kicker, which isn't a particularly good hand, but it will be the winner fairly often. The problem with betting is that it's hard to get called by worse. About the only hand you beat that can call a bet is JT, as other jacks would have made a better top pair (AJ, KJ), two pairs (J8), or even a full house (J9). A hand like QT would have called on the turn, because it had an open-ended straight draw, and that draw completed on the river. It's possible the villain slowplayed flopped trips or a boat and plans to check-raise. Since you have a hand with showdown value, but that can't get value from many worse hands, I think checking behind is the best idea. As played, you bet, and the villain check-raises. This is bad news, because I don't think he's ever bluffing here. He'll show up with straight or trips (or better) almost always. Villain's raise is only small, so it seems you have a good price to call, so I can't blame you for calling, but sure enough he shows trips and you lost the pot. This hand shows you why you should try and think of what hands your opponents can have. You shouldn't be calling raises with one pair, especially on wet boards like this, because villains will show up with much better than one pair. When you're in position on the button, you get the chance to control the pot size. If your hand is not very strong, you can use this advantage to check behind. Try not to make bets if they can't get called by worse hands. If you're not sure if you have the best hand, check behind and see the showdown for free.

14. In this hand, the cutoff makes a standard raise, and you have A3s in the small blind. I'd generally recommend folding here. Against some loose and aggressive players, I'd raise, but I would be doing so as a bluff, expecting the villain to fold. Unless you have reads on your opponents, then you're better off just folding. You don't need to defend your blinds desperately, and you don't want to call with weak hands like A3s, because it's hard to make money playing out of position. As played, you re-raised, but villain doesn't fold or even just call. He goes all in. This is a clear indication that you are beat. Most villains will only get their whole stack in the middle pre-flop with legitimate monsters: QQ+ and AK. Your hand is crushed by that range and you do not have the right odds to call. You put your stack on the line and villain flips over AK, so you're dominated. Your only hope is to make a straight, a flush, or hit a 3. Unfortunately, villain smashes the board and makes a full house, so you lose your whole stack.
I think you overvalued your hand in this situation. A3s is not a monster. You can occasionally win a small pot with it, but you don't want to play a big one unless you see a flop and make a monster. Getting all in pre-flop with this hand will not be profitable in the long run, so be more disciplined in future and just fold it when villain indicates he has a big hand.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
Arty


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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:59 PM
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Thanks that's really helpful. What next?
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:58 PM
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HI abshark22,

It appears that you have not passed the cash game quiz yet. When you pass the quiz, we will continue to the next step!

Joss


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