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Bankroll Builder - Thu Jul 11, 2013, 02:08 PM
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I'm new to PSO and would like to take place in the bankroll builder promotion , just recently discovered the online poker community and im really excited to play and learn!
 
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Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:34 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:00 AM
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Hi AstraBasta,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Poker hand analyse - Fri Jul 12, 2013, 02:54 AM
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so basically i really got confused by my opponents just Checking/Calling until the last betting round
so i thought they either got bottom pair or bluffing even thought there was a potential flush.
should i have folded this hand?

 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:39 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:46 PM
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Hi AstraBasta!

With A9 from UTG+1, I get two limps in front of me. I need to immediately muck this hand, as it is nowhere near a strong enough hand to raise with. If I had AQ, AK or AA (only aces I'd play here), then I would make a standard raise to 3BB+1BB for each limper... but the hand that I have is ace/rag and therefore I need to muck it.

Just because I have an A or suited cards does not mean that they should always be played. Players that play too many marginal or worse hands (which this hand is) will leak off and give their chips to their opponents from playing too many hands. When playing poker, I want to be able to gain chips, not give mine to my opps.

If I was in the hand (which I would NOT be), when I see that I flop top pair, I need to make a standard value bet. Post-flop bets need to be sized based on the pot size, number of opps and board texture. With 4+ opps in the hand, I need to make a pot-sized bet. I cannot bet less or I can be giving the opps the correct odds to try to outdraw me.. and if I do so and lose, it's my own fault that I lose the hand.

Same thing on the turn, but now, since there are 3 opps, I need to bet 3/4 pot. When there is a raise and I'm in the hand 3-way with the flush draw hitting.. I need to muck, as one of the opps most likely has the flush.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:13 AM
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Hi AstraBasta,

Please let us know when you have passed your poker basics course, so that may continue to the next step!

Joss


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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:31 PM
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hey, i have passed the basics course quizz
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:50 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:20 AM
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and to the question why people raise big bets :
*Value bet
*Bluff
*Protection bet
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:48 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AstraBasta View Post


and to the question why people raise big bets :
*Value bet
*Bluff
*Protection bet
Hi AstraBasta!

Calling with KQo can be ok since you do have position on the villain. However, when the villain raises from ep we need to assign them a fairly tight range, unless you had a read on them. I would definately play KQs, but folding KQo would be fine too.

As played, you miss the flop and it is checked to you. I would still assume the villain has a pocket pair or an Ax type of hand, both of which are beating you. I suggest checking your option and reassing on the turn. If you catch a K or Q then you may have showdown value. Notice though that you dont want to get crazy even if you flop a K or Q because the villain may have Ak or AQ giving them the better kicker.

With KQs we are hoping to flop a draw to a straight or flush. With KQo we lose the flush options. It can still be playable but we need to be careful. Betting the flop gave the villain the chance to push us off the hand. Folding as you did was clearly correct. Good fold But, checking would have given us a free card.

In general don't bluff at 2NL. Just stick to value betting with your strong made hands.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2013, 08:39 AM
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Passed the Cash quiz (=
 
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Wed Jul 17, 2013, 12:26 PM
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Hi AstraBasta,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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Fri Jul 19, 2013, 06:35 AM
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ok sort of lost the money right before i hit 10VPP ,
Lost some of it twice to 2 really bad beats where i went All in with 2 Aces pre-flop, and opponents just made a set.
and most recent loss was this one :
 
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Fri Jul 19, 2013, 11:19 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Fri Jul 19, 2013, 02:39 PM
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Hi AstraBasta! I'll take a look at the hand in post #15.

Thanks for posting this hand. The first thing to point out is that this is a 6-max table, where the play is loose and aggressive. The PSO beginner courses are designed for full ring tables, where a disciplined and patient style is profitable, so please sit on 9-handed tables for the remainder of this promotion. Nevertheless, I'll take a look at this hand.

With K9o in the cutoff facing a limp, I'd sometimes raise and sometimes fold. I don't really like calling, as this hand doesn't flop all that well, and limping might encourage a villain to raise it up, putting you in a bad spot. Raising is better, because it gives you an immediate chance to win, and also gives you the betting lead if you get called and see a flop. As played, you over-limp and both blinds come along, so you're actually in position, acting last.
The flop comes KK5 with a flush draw. You usually have the best hand here, and you can get value from flush draws and random pocket pairs that don't believe you have a king. When it's checked to you, betting is good. On the turn, villain takes a weird action. He leads into you, which is odd as most players will check to the previous street's aggressor. It seems he liked the ace on the turn, or he already had a strong hand on the flop and wants to get value for it. I don't really like raising here, because it's hard to get called by worse. If villain has a king, it's unlikely to be worse than K9, but if he's making a weird bluff or over-valuing top pair with the ace, then you should call and let him keep bluffing. Minraising isn't a good idea. When you think you have the best hand and you think worse hands will call, raise it to 3x the bet. After your minraise, villain re-raises. This is a show of real strength. I think he could have a full house with 55 here, or perhaps he slowplayed AK or even AA by limping pre-flop. There really isn't much you beat. Would villain play a hand like K8 this way? Maybe, but I think he's stronger. You call and see the river, which is a ten. This doesn't complete the flush draw, but I think villain's range is made up of trips and full houses. He puts you all in for your last 36c and get the bad news. Villain made a boat on the river, but he was actually ahead at every stage of the hand. The lesson to learn here is that K9o is not a great hand. Even when you make trips, you can't be confident, because there are several better kings. That's why it's generally best to fold this hand pre-flop.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Arty


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Sat Jul 20, 2013, 12:27 AM
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Hi AstraBasta,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you since you posted the last losing hand and it has been analysed.

There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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Sat Jul 20, 2013, 10:02 AM
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hit 10 VPP
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:41 PM
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Hi AstraBasta,

Our records show that you have not reached 10 VPPs earned since your last bonus was awarded. Please keep working on them, I'm sure that you will get there soon!

Joss


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Last edited by HokyPokyToo; Sun Jul 21, 2013 at 01:50 PM..
 

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