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Bankroll builder! - Fri Jul 12, 2013, 11:05 AM
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Hey, I want to take part in Bankroll Builder promotion
 
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Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:29 PM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:46 AM
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Hi PokerAmigo77,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:46 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

So my question is what you think of this semi-bluff that turned into bluff? I think my bet on the river was too small and that´s why he called + because he had much bigger stack.

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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:50 AM
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And I completed the quiz so I´m ready for next step
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:14 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:02 AM
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Hi PokerAmigo77! I'll take a look at the hand in post #4.

With 98o in the big blind, I'd often just fold. You have reasonable pot odds with two players already calling the raise, but your hand is not strong and you'll be out of position (2nd to act) post-flop, which will make it hard to play profitably. As played, you call, but the plan should be to flop a monster (2pr+) or a strong draw. With anything less, you shouldn't put any more money in the pot, as you'll generally need to make a very strong hand to beat all the opponents.
You call and the flop comes T63 with a flush draw. You have just a gutshot, which is a weak draw. The best play is to check and fold. Instead, you decided to lead out with a donkbet, when you should be checking to the pre-flop raiser to see what he does. If he doesn't like this flop, he might check behind and you could get a free card. You made a stab of 6 chips into 40. This bet serves no real purpose. It's far too small to put any pressure on opponents, but when you're semi-bluffing you need them to fold sometimes. Two villains call. They are likely to have top pair, flush draws or overcards. When another ten hits the board, I think you should give up. A villain is never folding trips if he has it, but also the draws that called on the flop will also call. With 9 high, you have no shot at winning this pot unless you hit your 4-out draw.
You bet less than half pot, which isn't enough to make better hands fold. Both villains call again.
The river pairs the board again. You have no chance of making someone fold a full house or a pocket pair, and I think ace high will often call too. Your bluff failed on the first two streets, and it's even less likely to work now. Betting just under half pot is good enough to make missed flush draws fold, but the villain with a big stack and ace high looks you up, so you lost a big chunk of your stack.
I think the main lesson to learn from this hand is to cut down on your bluffs. It's especially bad to bluff in multiway pots. One of the opponents is bound to have something that can call. Firing on all three streets with 9 high takes courage, but courage alone doesn't make money. Bluffing should be reserved for situations like when you're heads up with a scary board. On play money tables, and to some extent the 2NL cash games, villains will call your bluffs so often that it's pointless even trying. Save your big bets for when you actually have a hand.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Arty


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Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:02 AM
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Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:17 AM
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Thnx for analyze
 
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Sun Jul 14, 2013, 03:59 PM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:25 AM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

Probably should have folded pre-flop already...
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:30 AM
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To bluff people off decent hands
To gain value from very strong hands
To protect against draws

And I have completed the quiz so I have all tasks done
 
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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:58 AM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerAmigo77 View Post
Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

Probably should have folded pre-flop already...
Hi PokerAmigo77!

I think your best line would have been to check preflop, and hope to flop a set. Raising isnt the best line. If everyone folds, you dont win very much since the pot is so small. If you get a string of callers, you will be bloating the pot and playing out of position. If only one player was involved then raising can be good.

As played, yes, you should fold to the preflop 3-bet or 4-bet if you think the villain is bluffing.

On the flop you are either way ahead or way behind when the villain mini-raises your bet. If you think you are behind, then I would just fold there and then. If you think you are ahead (based on reads from earlier hands) then you want to call with the intention of calling the next bullet on the turn as long as an A doesnt come. This will get max value for you when you are ahead and minimize your losses when you are behind. Knowing what to do has to be based on your reads and what you have seen the villain do previously. If he is unknown then keep it safe and fold to the preflop 3-bet.

I hope this helps

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:27 AM
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Thnx, Roland
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 10:46 AM
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Hi PokerAmigo77,

Fantastic!

Your next Bankroll Builder bonus is on it's way to you, great job so far.

Watch this video that will help you on the cash game tables



There are three ways in which you can earn your next bonus.

1) Earn 10 VPPs AFTER receiving this bonus and you will automatically be credited with the next bonus. Let us know if you hit that target
2) If you lose your this bonus at the tables please post the hands where you lost the money with here in this thread. As soon as you post the losing hands we will advise on the next step.
3) If you make a first deposit at PokerStars you will automatically be awarded your remaining bonuses from the Bankroll Builder promotion.

Best of luck to you at the tables and we are here to help you should you have any questions.

Joss


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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:21 PM
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Do I have to play full ring games still or can I play SnGs for example to earn VPP?
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 05:53 PM
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Hi PokerAmigo77,

Sorry no. Only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Playing any other game than will make you ineligible for future bonuses. Cash game strategy differs significantly from tournament play, so the hand analysers will need to see your cash table hands. It shouldn't take very long to get through this program, so please concentrate your efforts to completing this promotion.

Good luck at the tables!

Joss


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Last edited by HokyPokyToo; Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 05:56 PM..
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 06:11 PM
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Okay, thnx for quick answer
 
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Tue Jul 16, 2013, 07:31 PM
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Well that was quick..

Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

I did put him on high cards/pocket pair, but after his shove I was sure he doesn´t have set so I called... Pretty amateurish play from him in my opinion... Called pre flop raise with 9Q...

And not long after that...

Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

Foolish play from me..

Last edited by PokerAmigo77; Tue Jul 16, 2013 at 07:34 PM..
 

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