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2NL 6-max - Bluff catcher - Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:34 PM
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Villain playing 74/23/13



Can I call this? I'm really not sure what the over bet means or if he's ever bluffing here. Any ideas?



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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:11 AM
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If he bet a bigger amount on the turn, on that case a bluff would seem possible.
But he bet one big blind, which indicates either a weak pair or 9x.
The overbet on the river is two times the size of the pot so it looks strongly as value.
All things considered you have to fold and I would be surprised if he didn't showed up with 9J.
Now if the villain was isildur1, I would suggest calling 25% of the time, but I don't think viktor plays those stakes.

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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:48 AM
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J9 is 1 of the many hands he could have, i dont know how to read stats but judging by what i see:

Its very unlikely that hes bluffing here, putting him on T9 or any other 9x like Gamb suggested he definitly has the straight here so its a good fold.

he might even have Q10 to have a reason to bet that big on the river but again pretty unlikely with that 678board, and even if he has Q10 its foolish to bet that big on the river.


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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:19 AM
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I'd recommend betting half pot on the turn. It gets value from worse and prevents you being bluffed on the river. By checking, you look so weak that a villain in position can bully you off your equity.
As played, two pair is not a great bluff-catcher on a 4-straight board. I think he has a 9 here almost always (mostly with 98, 97) and I doubt he'd consciously turn a hand like 76 into a bluff.
Folding the river is fine and you lost the minimum. Nice hand, bad runout.

FWIW, I see a lot of 2NL 6-max players taking a min-min-pot or min-min-overbet line. Just about every time I've seen a showdown, villain has had the (near) nuts. When villain has shown up with a bluff, I've taken a note. Without a specific note like "overbets river with missed draw", I'm generally never making a hero call.


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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:50 PM
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Cheers Arty. I have to say I didn't think I could call it but I'm never too sure of what overbets mean from villains of this type and thought he might be getting stubborn with a one pair hand that he turns into a bluff or something like that but folded as I thought the 9 was too much in his range.



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Sun Jul 14, 2013, 04:19 AM
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This happened to me yesterday and i charged him the maximum to outdraw me with my TPTK, by the maximum i mean i jammed 50c into a pot of 10c on the flop he was that much of a station just for him to hit his out on the river and i was pot committed and got stacked.
 

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