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Amassing Cash - Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:17 AM
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I would like to take part in the bankroll builder.
 
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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:33 AM
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Welcome to PokerSchoolOnline!


Be sure to read THIS just to be be sure of exactly what's on offer with the Bankroll Builder promotion.


>>click here<< for a complete overview of what PSO has to offer.

We will advise within 24 hours as to whether or not you will be eligible for this promotion. Please check back this time tomorrow!


Thank you for being a member of www.pokerschoolonline.com and best of luck to you at the tables!


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Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:11 AM
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Hi hellslave,

You are eligible for the Bankroll Builder promotion, good job!
NB: Bookmark this page so that you'll find it easily in the future

First Step

Watch the following video and pay special attention to the tips on retrieving and saving your hand history from PokerStars. This will be important for the rest of your promotional journey.


After wacthing this please play some PLAY MONEY FULL-RING (9-Handed) tables at PokerStars and using the Hand Replayer post a hand here in this thread that you have questions about.
Here is a video on how to use the hand replayer.


Then when you have that done please have a go at the Poker Basics Course and pass the quiz at the end of the course.
So you have 3 steps to do to begin with and when you have all 3 done we will award you with your first bonus.

1) Watch the 'Getting Started' video
2) Post a 'PLAY MONEY' hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer
3) Pass the Poker Basic course.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 steps completed.

Best of Luck!


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playing A A - Thu Jul 18, 2013, 05:40 PM
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Last edited by hellslave; Thu Jul 18, 2013 at 06:50 PM.. Reason: forgot to add question, How aggressive should one be facing flush/flush draw
 
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money builder - Thu Jul 18, 2013, 09:52 PM
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I have finished all 3 steps.
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:32 AM
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I have finished all 3 steps.
Hello,

Really sorry about the delay in answering your thread

Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.

He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.

Raiser


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failing to shake a donkey - Sun Jul 21, 2013, 02:11 PM
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how does one learn when to slow down?
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:32 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 11:19 PM
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Hi hellslave!

Knowing how aggressive to be when facing a possible flush depends on the situation AND your opponent. Did you haved any read on this guy? Here the biggest thing for me is your stack size. You made a fairly large raise preflop. This as actually good, because it started a side pot between you and the deep stacked villain.

When he checks the flop, I would recommend betting about 70% of the pot with the intention of moving all in on the turn. If you were as deep as the villain was, then we should be more careful. I don't want to overplay a top pair hand like your AA on this board. However, here there is so much in the pot compared to your stack on the flop that it is worth playing for stacks. By betting/raising early, on the flop then the turn, we hope to get the villain to call with a worse hand chasing a flush. This will be profitable in the long run. Notice, we need to bet the early streets while the villain still thinks they have a chance to improve to a flush. If you wait until the river they will fold all the times they missed the flush. Therefore, betting flop and turn will win you more chips than betting the turn and river.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 11:31 PM
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how does one learn when to slow down?
Hi again hellslave!

Learning when to slow down with an overpair is situation dependant. We need to have a read on the opponent, and consider the board, action and stack sizes.

Here You have a strong starting hand and make a good preflop raise isolation one player. Perfect

You flop an overpair. Notice the board is very dry. There are no likely flush or straight draws. The only likely card to have helped the villain is the J. I would recommend betting 50% of the pot in spots like this. Not many hands will be able to call larger bets.

On the turn you bet more than the pot!? This is a major error. By betting so much you created a situaion in which you got value owned. All the potential hands that you were beating, such one pair Jx hands or medium pocket pairs, will fold to such a large bet. This means you win less with your winning hands. Whereas, only the hands beating you on the turn will call your overbet. This means you lose more than necessary with your losing hands. This is exactly what happened here. Had you bet half the pot you could have folded to a reraise or checked down the river.

Our goal at the poker table is to create situations where we win big pots and lose small ones. Think about how your betsizing affects the out come of your hand. We want to keep the hands we are beating in the hand.

GL and have fun at the tables!

Roland GTX
 
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Mon Jul 22, 2013, 12:24 AM
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Excellent!

You've done all 3 tasks and you'll get your first bonus in the next 24 hours, good job!

Step Two

Use your first buy-in to only play the 1/2 cent real money FULL RING tables on PokerStars. Do not play any other type of game other than this. Post one hand that you had difficulty with here in this thread using the hand replayer and we will analyze it for you.
Please watch the following video and answer the question below.



List 3 reasons why a player may want to make a big bet?

Then study the Cash Game Course and once your happy have a go at attempting the quiz. Don't rush through the course, there's a lot of content there and the quiz is tricky so spend some time on this.

So you have 3 things to do to earn your next bonus.

1) Play the 1/2 cent Real Money tables and post an interesting hand here in the Forum using the Hand Replayer.
2) Watch the Bet Sizing video and answer the question below it.
3) Study and pass the Cash Game quiz.

Let us know as soon as you have all 3 tasks completed and we will award you with your next buy-in.

Best of Luck!


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KK this time - Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:10 PM
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Deep in tournament. I don't know how I could have avoided getting all my chips in. Again, learning to fold to preserve your life in the game, I guess.
 
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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:27 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:59 AM
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Hi hellslave!

Since the type of tourney is not listed, I'll assume it's a standard tourney and not a satellite nor league game. Each has a different strategy and all of them can be different from cash tables.

I get a raise to 3BB in front of me and I'm holding KK with a 20BB stack. I'm going to shove here every time in a standard tourney. I want to make the best decision at that point in time and with a premium made hand I need to raise. A standard raise would be to 3X the previous bet (180k), but this is over 1/3 of my remaining chips, which means that I'd be pot-committed and cannot fold. Due to this, I'm 3-bet shoving preflop.

Hope this helps and good luck at the tables.

John (JWK24)

P.S. Once you receive your first bonus, please do NOT play any cash tourneys until you are done with the bankroll builder promo or you will make yourself ineligible for any future bonuses. Freerolls and open skill league or premier league games are ok, but not tourneys with a cash buy-in.


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Fri Jul 26, 2013, 01:22 AM
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Please let us know when you have passed your cash quiz, so we may proceed to the next step!

Joss


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winning blinds vs maximizing pot - Fri Jul 26, 2013, 07:47 PM
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Fri Jul 26, 2013, 10:37 PM
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Thank you for posting this hand for review and I have asked one of the Hand Analysers to take a look at it for you.
He will do this within the next 24 hours and once it's been analysed I will advise on the next step.

Cheers.


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Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:11 PM
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Hi hellslave! I'll take a look at the hand in post #16.

With AJ on the button you're in prime position to steal the blinds or get some value with what is likely the best hand, as you could raise and get called and then win the pot on the flop with a continuation bet. A standard size for an open-raise in any position is 3bb, which is 6c. I'm not sure whay you made it 12c (a whole 6 big blinds) but I'm not keen on this size. This big bet is likely to fold out a lot of worse hands that could have give you some value. Worse than that, is that with large overbets, you'll generally only get action from better hands. When you have a strong hand, you should bet an amount that is small enough that worse hands can call, but not so small that any old junk will come along. It just happens that 3bb is perfect for this, as it's close to a pot-size raise.
You won the pot here, which is never a bad result, but you might have lost some value by forcing the villains to fold worse hands that they might have called with if you'd made a standard raise. If you're still unsure about standard bet-sizes, re-watch the video on bet-sizing in post #11.

Hope this helps!
To get more tuition on cash game basics, I recommend going to live training sessions for the Wednesday and Saturday Games if you can. You'll even be able to play alongside other PSO members in the Homegame club and get instant feedback on the way you play your hands. Good luck!

Cheers,
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bet sizing - Sat Jul 27, 2013, 02:02 PM
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Three reasons why someone would want to make a big bet are:

To put a lot of pressure on opponents

To bluff people off decent hands

To protect against strong draws
 
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all tasks completed - Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:34 PM
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all tasks completed..
 

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